" The "Obama youth" video is quite troubling, reminds me of Germany
in the 1930's. "

" Yeah unionlabel, I'm sure Adolph inspired lots of disaffected kids to become architects, lawyers and entrepreneurs. You're right on with that comment, NOT. "

" Our Commander-in-Chief referring to the Constitution as 'just a piece of paper' troubles me a lot more than a bunch of kids wearing t-shirts and camo pants. "

" Hound wrote on Oct 7, 2008 8:26 AM:

" Yeah unionlabel, I'm sure Adolph inspired lots of disaffected kids to become architects, lawyers and entrepreneurs. You're right on with that comment, NOT. " No, he actually inspired them to believe in the superiority of the state, just like in the '30s. "

" BTW, I'm glad the teacher got burned. Classrooms aren't places for forced indoctrination. "

" If you ever watched Louis Farrakhan (note: Rev, Wright) back when he was in his prime, he would have is "brown shirt" thugs on stage while he ranted. These "brown shirt" thugs were there to intimidate and impress the mindless, hateful, racist audience. "

" I agree with xdfred, teachers shouldn't be allowed to push their beliefs onto impressionable kids so they can exploit them for political reasons. "

" I read this article about "Teacher suspended over video of students’ Obama chants". And I asked what is all the commotion about.

So, I went to YOUTUBE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSvBCBnulLs) and watched the video that was the basis for this action. Now the courier has added it to this page. You have to listen to the words. Don't be confused by the clothing or drill formation.

It was what is called "stepping" which has its origins in the fraternity and sorority systems of the HBCU (Historically Black Colleges and Universities). As a matter of fact the young men identify themselves as Alpha Omega. The largest chapter in Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Inc. is the Alpha Omega Chapter. Maybe their teacher is a member of that chapter.

The video identifies them as "Obama Youth - Junior Fraternity Regiment". Maybe that is what scares some who have no knowledge of life in Black America. Even though they have made several movies about stepping, the line and black fraternity life.

They are chanting about what inspired them and it is usually a very personal chant. There is not one reference to violence or any negative conduct. If young black men exercising their Constitutional Rights threaten someone my suggestion is to grow up.

They spoke of being responsible. They knew more than most registered voters what the health plan contained. If this is what it takes to get our youth to learn then do it. You have to listen to the words. Don't be confused by the clothing or drill.

Of all the presidential candidates of all the parties you have to admit that only one had the background, credentials, accomplishment, track record and offer hope to inspired them positively. Barack Obama is not only the first black to get the nomination for President by a major party but he is also the first Black editor in chief of The Harvard Law Review which is probably the most prestigious law school in the world. He has spent years as a community organizer.

McCain is against Affirmative action and several other initiatives so they would be foolish to say he inspires them. I know this was done before the nomination of McCain and Obama but I'm keep it focused.

What they said was they were inspired by Barack Obama to be a doctor, lawyer, sheriff, engineer, automobile technician, architect, firemen and entrepreneur. That is nothing to be condemned for inspiring our young people to make something of themselves.

All the young men wanted to do was make something of themselves and be a positive part of our society. Not one young man wanted to be a dope addict, dope pusher, alcoholic, pimp, criminal, spouse abuser, baby's daddy, or what is usually portrayed as the future for young black men. We need more inspiration and teaching like this. This is just another way to sure "no child is left behind".

Since when does inspiring our youth to be the best do we punish someone? This is America and we are a pluralist society. I think the administrator should be praising and encouraging this type of influence by a teacher instead of disciplining him or her.

I have to say you people who are in partisan politics leave our young men out of your petty squabbles because they have a future unlike most of you. "

" Great response vernon Weems. unionlabel, may I suggest you actually study 1930's Germany before trying to act knowledgeable on the subject? Hitler's Youth is in no way comparable to these young men, who are telling of one person who has INSPIRED them. Totally different than the indoctrination of the Hitler's Youth. "

" 50674, Obama didn't INSPIRE the students, the teacher got them to do this. This is WRONG in education. These are KIDS that are being influenced by their educators (as they are at colleges too often, too). This is wrong on multiple levels. "

" Vernon.... Your missing the point there buddy. Politics does not belong in the school system no different than in the work place. Yes Politics should be taught but for a teacher to help "guide" students in their beliefs is wrong plain and simple.

Mr. Weems you get the buzzer for not paying attention in class... bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz "

" Amazing! Can you imagine the outcry if a class of white students had done the same thing for McCain? I assure you, that Weems, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would have been screaming from the mountain tops about how racist that class and the teacher would have been. The teacher should be fired but you know that won't happen, especially since they're Obama supporters. "

" yea, they also did this kind of stepping in the 30's. hitler and his youth wanted a new society as well. they called themselves gustapo.

of course liberals everywhere look at this and dont see a threat or a concern. but then the next thing you know there is another columbine or VTech and the same people say 'you know, that just didnt look right.' say what you want, beleive what you want.

barack hussein obama and his associates are racists, terrorists and thugs. he knows it, the media and liberals everywhere dont care. they just want the roman columns, free haircuts, handouts, and houses for everyone!

the affirmative action housing plan of carter, and clinton, do not work. and this time is far to important to let a community activist with years of doing nothign but writing books, have the reigns to our economy and security.

say no to socialism and liberal dogma! they went out with the fascists of hitler, and the communists of stalin. hope is on the way. a hope that barack hussein obama goes quietly into the night, and resumes his do-nothing senatorship and then embarks on his do nothing professorship. "

" I don’t think most of us see this as a black or race issue. What I see in this video and others is a bunch of children being indoctrinated by followers of a charismatic socialist. An ardent socialist with unthinking mass appeal is scary. "

" thank you for the light-shedding vernon weems. at first even i, as an obama supporter, wanted to decry this video. but now that i understand the reasoning, i applaud this video and decry the suspension of this teacher! "

" I view this video as a group of young African American men who have been inspired by an African American male role model in our country, Senator Obama. Our kids NEED to be inspired by a positive male role model, particularly given the number of women-headed household. As a viewer, I don't know that the children haven't been inspired on their own. And if the teacher is encouraging these children to be inspired by the accomplishments of Senator Obama, good for him to try to point them in the right direction. What's so sad by our society is when there's an effort for something positive to happen, and I believe that was this instructors intention, so many turn that around into something so horrible. "

" not seeing this as a black or race issue is incredibly naive and a continuation of the types of attitudes that are largely responsible for continued racism in our society. these young black men have been inspired to strive for better lives than can be expected of a lot of young black men in our society because someone who shares in their story and background has risen to the level of democratic nominee for the president of the united states of america. we should celebrate the fact that in our barren political landscape there are still leaders who can inspire. yet, instead of celebrating we search for more reasons to tear each other down, ridicule cultures different from our own and frame cheap accusations rooted in our own political beliefs and not the truth. "

" so4real, your go go eyes for this so-called role model, barack hussein obama, is misguided and you have been bamboozled! bho is a friend to racists and terrorists. anyone who align himself that continues to spew hate is not a role model. his wife even is on record for saying she would do nothing but work for black issues.

sounds like a false messiah to me.

but heck, you liberals can follow a rock if you think real hope and free house is around the corner. "

" It took awhile timbrackett but you were able to get to the point where liberals like to take it. Giving a pass to one act because of race while trying to make another race feel guilty for their own beliefs and acts. "

" What the supporters of this teacher/kids are not understanding, is this kind of support for a candidate should not be made in a classroom. It's no different from a teacher directing/teaching their students about their personal religion. Similar to a separation of church and state kind of deal.

I would have no problem with these kids outside of school showing this kind of support for Obama. Just not in school. School is supposed to be an un-biased learning environment. Do you think these kids get the same kind of information on John McCain as they do about Barack Obama? I'd bet they probably know nothing about McCain's policies or background. That's my only issue. Biased teaching. Political motivation should be kept out of school. Talk about the election/candidates equally. "

" The liberals (especially Obama) are showing their "elitism".
The posts above show that with clarity.
This is getting ridiculous! "

" Big news of the day: Vernon Weems is voting for Obama. Couldn't have figured that one in a million years. "

" lmao people really need somthing to do with there selves. poeple are so scared that obama is going to win. its crazy thats all that this is about me. it has nothing to do with the teacher or the school. I dont know why people are mad not like the kids can vote anyway. its all about jealousy trust me. and stop talking about hitler. thses kids have nothing to do with hitler. "

" Obama is getting support from all the right people.
"Farrakhan Praises Obama as 'Hope of Entire World"
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/02/25/farrakhan-praises-obama-as-hope-of-entire-world/
Obama will be a supporter of Global Socialism where if you make $30,000 a year you will be considered one of the "Rich" and will be forced to support all those less fortunate in the world. "

" elitism? did you read the article? nine out of ten of the students at this school qualify for free lunches. these are poverty-stricken, minority students. and while this administration and like-minded conservatives have worked hard to put more american children into poverty, it is certainly no 'elite' position.
and if you want to call me an 'elitist' for supporting a young person's right to express himself then whatever. the first amendment doesn't apply to just adults. in fact, children of this age often appear at political events or have their school project letter read by politicians. engaging children in the political process only helps our nation. i'm sorry they didn't support the white person in the race, but if you were a poverty-stricken african-american child you would not be supporting hillary clinton either.
i guess given this nation's current political climate, being a pragmatic realist makes me a liberal elitist.
i feel really elite six days a week when i'm working second shiftat my metal shop making parts for tractors. every saturday evening when my friends are watching football games and engaging in other social activities and i'm covered in sweat and metal dust waiting for 11pm so i can enjoy a couple of hours of the weekend i think to myself that it sure feels good to be an "elitist"--and to be able to enjoy the privileges my "elitist" status affords. being a member of the elite, shrinking middle class and watching my 401k shrink by about 25% this year and realizing what money i have left in 401k isn't worth as much as it used to be because bush's record deficits have devalued the dollar has brought me great "elitist" pleasure. seeing the administration that has re-distributed my middle class wages to the rich and powerful take more of my hard-earned money to bail out the rich and powerful because of their lack of responsibility makes me proud of my "elitism". if you see me peering down disapprovingly from my grease-stained safety googles please just excuse me as another "elitist" trying to ruin our nation. "

" It's good to see students doing something constructive with their time, rather than being forced to learn about Creationism or the nonsense theory of Intelligent Design. Just one more reason why the GOP must be shown the door in this election! "

" avee wrote--"Obama will be a supporter of Global Socialism where if you make $30,000 a year you will be considered one of the "Rich" and will be forced to support all those less fortunate in the world."

what???

has the mccain camp fallen so low that now we just make things up on the fly in the hopes that it will stick? two can play that game. let me try. john mccain hates the poor and middle class and his STATED goal is to rob the poor and middle class of all their money and give it all to Charles Keating!

see, it's easy to just make stuff up, cross your fingers and hope people will actually believe you. "

" tim- Quick question, will you still be supporting Obama when he closes the tax loop holes for corporations, and increases their taxes? When these increases take place where do you think Deere's (this is my assumption of where you work, if not I apologize) will look in order to keep their multi million dollar profits? They will lower wages, they will eliminate jobs, they will raise prices. When Obama takes away tax incentives and raises taxes on the oil companies, thus increasing the shipping costs of the products produced, how do think Deere's will make up that loss? Jobs, and wages are the first place corporations look, I know I have been downsized more then once in my life.
As for the Obama youth video, I'm not surprised this teacher was suspended in today's politically correct enviornment. Making it is fine, but releasing it and making it public was a mistake. Obama is a great role model for young african-american youths, especially when a lot of african american youth's idolize the "gangster rappers" and athletes who in generel glorify womanizing, violence and overall disrespect. "

" timbrackett wrote on Oct 8, 2008 11:34 AM:

"..elitism? did you read the article? nine out of ten of the students at this school qualify for free lunches. these are poverty-stricken, minority students. and while this administration and like-minded conservatives have worked hard to put more american children into poverty..." How did anybody put more children into poverty? What was don to put them into extreme poverty? In whose best interest was it to put them into extreme poverty? My guess is the people giving them free lunches. And who would that be?
"...and if you want to call me an 'elitist' ..." Consider it done.
"..for supporting a young person's right to express himself then whatever..." There's a difference between self expression and coerced expressed.
"..the first amendment doesn't apply to just adults..." You knowledge of the first amendment has been shown, by you, to be pitiful. You've done it again.
"...in fact, children of this age often appear at political events or have their school project letter read by politicians. engaging children in the political process only helps...." Those who have enslaved them. These children are being used as props, nothing more. They have been ruined by the welfare state. Doomed to dependence on fee lunches. "

" timbrackett wrote on Oct 8, 2008 11:34 AM:

"...that has re-distributed my middle class wages to the rich and powerful..." This has to be your silliest post yet. Are you looking for a pity party? Maybe you should be campaigning for lower taxes, since that's the only way your hard earned wages can be distributed to anybody.

".. feel really elite six days a week when i'm working second shiftat my metal shop making parts for tractors. every saturday evening when my friends are watching football games and engaging in other social activities and i'm covered in sweat and metal dust waiting..." Sob! So, did someone hold a gun to your head and force you to take that job, assuming you're being honest? Let me guess, you wanted to be a rocket scientist and Bush and his cronies said no, because they are so mean. "

" cf1981 wrote on Oct 8, 2008 11:38 AM:

" It's good to see students doing something constructive with their time, rather than being forced to learn about Creationism or the nonsense theory of Intelligent Design. Just one more reason why the GOP must be shown the door in this election! " You're right, students should be kept ignorant of the many blatant holes in the theory of evolution. But this way, they can more easily follow the socialist dogma of answering only to the state, eh, comrade? "

" I wish people would stop making something out of nothing. I guess some of you would rather see these young men spewing hatred. Well they are not, and shame on you for trying to make it look like that. They have only said that now they have a role model that has inspired them to do something positive with their lives. Like become doctors, lawyers and engineers. I know that a lot of you don't like the fact that they are intelligent black men and not out somewhere robbing someone but they are in school learning good values. What they did was no more than speak of what they can become one day. They didn't say anything about hurting onyone. "

" ldw2107 wrote on Oct 8, 2008 1:39 PM:

" I wish people would stop making something out of nothing. I guess some of you would rather see these young men spewing hatred. Well they are not, and shame on you for trying to make it look like that. They have only said that now they have a role model that has inspired them to do something positive with their lives. Like become doctors, lawyers and engineers. I know that a lot of you don't like the fact that they are intelligent black men and not out somewhere robbing someone but they are in school learning good values. What they did was no more than speak of what they can become one day. They didn't say anything about hurting onyone. "
You don't learn good values in school. You learn foul language, disrespect, bogus self esteem. What these young men should be learning is how to read, write, math, and science. And learn what makes this the best country in the world, and that through hard work and sacrifice, anybody can make it, if they want to. Instead, let's indoctrinate our youth in blind political alliance based on race. Next step: Support Obama, or else. "

" cf those crazies down south should probably be teaching these kids how to read and write and count. instead you want them marching around, arms up, heil obama, heil obama!? this is nonsense.

now, time to go convert capitalists to socialists at the CF rec center buddy! "

" my story is not a sob story. i enjoy my job. my story simply illustrates that having liberal viewpoints does not make one an elitist.
i am far from an elitist. i'm a blue-collar, middle class wage earner, midwesterner from a small town (6,000 citizens) and obtained my a.a. from hawkeye community college. "

" Dear Tim,
You complain left and right about your glass being half-empty. Now you say you enjoy your job?
Just what the (deleted) do YOU so want the country to do for YOU?
How about what YOU can do for your country, as JFK would ask you?
You come across as an elitist because you write scathingly against anyone who doesn't believe as you do that we are scum, idiots, evil and that we want the worst for people. All we Conservatives want is for more people to do as you say you have: get an education, then a job, follow the reasonable laws in our country, save some money of your own, and have some personal responsibility. It's what our founding fathers wanted for us. Not this HUMONGOUS gov't that does everything for anyone who doesn't want to do for themselves.
It's getting idiotic out there now!
We Conservatives are NOT bad people, we just would like you all to see the glass as half-full. You know, smile once in a while, quit complaining and insisting that others give, give, give of themselves for those who just want to take, take, take!
Think about it a bit Tim, then answer me this question: How did Obama pay for his Harvard education? Better yet, WHO paid for his education?
Ayers? Foreigners? HE certainly didn't, so who did? Who planted him out there to be our next POTUS? His ties and relationships to very verbal Anti-American radicals is getting very concerning.
Wright, Ayers, Rezco (criminal) are just starters. Add in that HAMAS supports him should scare the crap out of you all!
I cannot believe you all will not look at the truth behind this Obama. "

" Newswatcher----Thank You !!!! "

" avee wrote on Oct 9, 2008 11:22 AM:

" Newswatcher----Thank You !!!! "


Ditto. "

" i don't need my country to do anything for me. however, i do EXPECT my government to act responsibly. you know, don't get us engaged in unnecessary wars. don't spend more than they take in--balance the budget. don't trample on civil liberties. don't bail out all their rich, greedy friends.
is that too much to ask? actually, the first three expectations i mentioned used to be republican values.
and i only write scathingly against the current administration (which most will agree did not turn out to be very conservative) and when i am responding to ridiculous attacks by conservatives...such as saying obama is friends with terrorists or that i am an elitist.
you don't like obama, i do. it's that simple. but i'm not an elitist because i disagree with you. "

" and don't ever question what i can do for my country! i have sacrificed more time and money to the greater good of this country through political, civic and charitable causes than most! from mentoring to community service to financial donations, etc. i have given back to this great nation and the less fortunate of its citizens! "

" Do YOU act responsibly?
Do Govt hand-out recipients act responsibly?
Has Obama acted responsibly with his no-shows on voting day so as to not reveal his true views on issues?
Has Obama acted responsibly when decrying his American hating friends only when he's caught running for POTUS while being friends with Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac execs, Rev. Wright, Ayers, Rezco,etc?
You cannot possibly tell me that if McCain had friends such as those people that you Democrats wouldn't have him strapped to the political death chair!!!!!!!
Why don't you LOOK INTO Obama!!!!!???? "

" timbrackett wrote on Oct 9, 2008 12:45 PM:

"..don't trample on civil liberties..." Which civil liberties of yours have been trampled? Obama wants to take our guns away, despite the Constitution. "

" Tim,
The best thing for you to do is look into the REAL Obama, the Obama that has conveniently changed his friends as often as is needed to fool all of you Liberals who are constantly looking for your Messiah!
He's a fraud! Look into the REAL Obama, not just the speechy whiz. The real guy, what he's really done, where he's really been.
Not good. "

" good job news and others. keep spreading the truth to the do-nothings! the fact of the matter is the liberal run media hates the good guys and only want that one because he is the only candidate they can muster!

barack hussein obama is a friend to terrorists, hamas, racists and the bums who ran freddie and fannie into the ground. The same people taking the credit for bailing out these organizations, are the ones who caused their downfall. "

" ldw2107 if you read the article this school is for high risk students which means I doubt if any of them will be lawyers, doctors, or engineers unless they spend more time actually learning instead of chanting about it. "

" I have looked into Obama in-depth! I do not make un-informed decisions. However, I also don't buy into conspiracy theory, mud-slinging, right-wing baseless accusations either. The only reason McCain's past associations are not being called into question with as much ferocity is because Obama does not wish to run his campaign that way.
Keep raising your un-informed questions though...in the meantime Obama will continue to widen his lead in the polls and win the election. "

" tim, how do you respond to the fact that barack hussein obama has hired the two top executives at fannie and freddie?

tim, how do you respond to ayers?

time, how do you respond to wright?

I want to read your indepth informed decision on these rascals. "

" Posted: October 09, 2008
8:03 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, another powerful Chicago-based political figure associated with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and other long-time associates of Democratic Party presidential candidate Barack Obama, is leaving no doubt about what he thinks of the leader in the campaign for the White House.

"""He says when Obama talks "the Messiah is absolutely speaking.""""

If you know anything about Farrakahn this should scare the heck out of you. Not so much what he says but that a lot of people will beleive him without question. "

" I respond the same way I respond to McCain's friendships with Keating, Falwell, Liddy, etc.
Who cares!!!
Unless you live in some sort of utopia the rest of the world has yet to discover, you are going to cross paths with less than perfect people. I have acquaintances who have been in prison, co-workers who are felons, friends who have owi's and know people who use illegal drugs. However, I have never been to prison. I am not a felon. I abide by the laws of the land (okay, every once in a while i drive around 5 miles an hour over the speed limit). And I do not use illegal drugs.
Knowing bad people does not make an individual bad.
That is the last response I will have on the matter because I feel like I am in high school again. Psst. Barack Obama hangs out with the nerds...he must be a nerd too. Seriously, it's ridiculous.
See you guys on November 4th. And who knows *wink* if we're lucky, maybe Ayers and Farrakhan will hold the Koran for Barack Hussein Obama when he is sworn in as President of the United States. LOL "

" Hound wrote on OCT 7, 2008 8:26 AM:

" Yeah unionlabel, I'm sure Adolph inspired lots of disaffected kids to become architects, lawyers and entrepreneurs. You're right on with that comment, NOT. "

As a matter of fact, he did.

In fact, Hitler during his rise to power was considered to be something of a "Messiah" himself by many Germans. By the time many began to figure out how wrong they were, it was too late.

^o^
—Obviously, they're not teaching history in the public school system much anymore. "

" Actually, this is kind of a double sided blade.

To the extent that these kids may be inspired to achieve responsible and useful educations and careers, this is a good thing.

If they are inspired to do this by Barack Obama, then good for him.

But there's still something a bit iffy about the whole thing. What it smacks of is political exploitation of kids who probably have a lot more to learn about history and critical thinking. By a teacher, no less.

The ultimate irony, of course, is that these kids may have been inspired to pursue their education and careers only to grow up in a country where achieving their ultimate potential may be considerably limited by the imposition of an ever growing socialist hegemony.

^o^
—And, yes, Hitler inspired German youth to careers as architects and engineers as well as joining the Schutzstaffel. "

" Hmmm, membership in Hitler's youth was compulsory from 1936 on. Hitler did not inspire anyone....he indoctinated them in his "training academies". Anyone who finds a similarity between these "stepping" youth INSPIRED by Obama and Hitler's Youth needs to actually study Nazi Germany. No, nevermind. Remain ignorant and spew your misinformation. No one is really paying attention, anyway. If you are seriously wanting to know about the 1930's Germany I'll be happy to recommend some great books. To try to launch your own smear campaign against Obama based on what you think you know about Nazi Germany, or fascists, or socialism is not doing anything more than drawing out your own comrades to support your idiocy. "

" 50674 wrote on OCT 15, 2008 10:32 PM:

" Hmmm, membership in Hitler's youth was compulsory from 1936 on. Hitler did not inspire anyone....he indoctinated them in his "training academies". Anyone who finds a similarity between these "stepping" youth INSPIRED by Obama and Hitler's Youth needs to actually study Nazi Germany. No, nevermind. Remain ignorant and spew your misinformation. No one is really paying attention, anyway. If you are seriously wanting to know about the 1930's Germany I'll be happy to recommend some great books. To try to launch your own smear campaign against Obama based on what you think you know about Nazi Germany, or fascists, or socialism is not doing anything more than drawing out your own comrades to support your idiocy. "

Uh, huh. Well, I'm old enough that I knew people who were there. Who survived Hitler and his National Socialists.

^o^
...Reading books is fine and dandy, but personally knowing survivors adds a certain dimension that goes a bit beyond reading a book. "

" By the by, 50674, you need to tuck in your brown shirt.

^0^ "