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Russ Wasendorf
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County P&Z says no to proposed office in Beaver Hills
By JEFF WILFORD, Assistant City Editor
WATERLOO --- Neighbor after neighbor in the Beaver Hills area voiced their concerns Tuesday night about Russ Wasendorf's plan to relocate his international financial brokerage from downtown Chicago to their bucolic neck of the woods.
They believe the change would increase vehicular traffic through the area; it could damage or disrupt the environment around there; it would open the door to commercial development in that area and, once opened, that door would be hard to shut.
In the end, the Black Hawk County Planning & Zoning Commission agreed more with their concerns than economic development benefits supporters of the project touted. They voted, 4-1, to deny Wasendorf's request to rezone land from agricultural to light commercial, in effect killing Wasendorf's plan.
Wasendorf had earlier said he would move his business to another area if the neighborhood didn't want him.
Tuesday night, he said many of the concerns about his project were unfounded, and that some people had misconstrued or distorted his plans in order to galvanize opposition to the project.
"I guess I'm rather taken back, because I didn't expect when you try to bring something positive to the community, you're drug through the mud," Wasendorf said. "It's been a horrible experience. ... I'm not inclined to look for another site here."
Wasendorf had offered to buy 22.4 acres of land from Beaver Hills Country Club --- and the club's membership agreed to sell it --- pending rezoning approval, to build a new headquarters for his Peregrine Financial Group. He planned a three-story mirrored glass building that would use environmentally friendly technology and exceed greenhouse gas emissions standards set forth in the Kyoto Protocol.
Peregrine Financial Group is the 30th largest nonbank financial firm in the U.S., and has 240 offices in 25 countries. Wasendorf wanted to move most of his 70 Chicago employees to the new office, as well as 35 employees who already work in leased office space in Cedar Falls.
After the vote, Wasendorf said he would probably look elsewhere, outside Black Hawk County, for his new headquarters. "I grew up in Cedar Rapids, so I'll probably consider there."
A group of more than 50 people crowded into the council chamber at City Hall for the planning & zoning commission meeting, and spoke for and against it.
Steve Dust, executive director of the Greater Cedar Valley Alliance, said the building Wasendorf wanted to build would be a "cornerstone building that we could look at and brag about.
"How many times have we welcomed a business into our community, and the expansion of jobs that go along with it, and then said, 'Well, if they just would have done it a little bit better?'" Dust said.
Mark Miller, a resident of Cedar Falls and a member of the Beaver Hills Country Club, called it "a great benefit for our community, and it's the kind of growth that we're looking for.
"What we have here is the classic story of the goose and the golden egg," Miller said. "I think we have a very nice golden egg here, and we should take care of it."
Opponents did not deny the economic development benefits relocating Peregrine Financial would bring. But they said there were better places to put it.
"I love the idea of this development. I think it's wonderful," said Amy Lockard, who lives at 8824 Slap Tail Trail. "But I do think this is not the spot for that development."
Linda Hall, another resident of the Beaver Hills area, called it "the wrong place for the right idea." She gave commissioners a petition with 61 signatures opposed to the development.
Hall and other residents also questioned the impact the building, and its construction, might have on the environment and the water table. Several spoke of the wildlife that visits their yards, the quiet and the starry sky. They didn't want those animals chased or scared away, the noise of increased vehicle traffic or the light pollution to ruin their view of the night sky.
They also doubted a recent traffic study that showed 1,448 cars a day using the main road into the area now, and would only increase by five percent to 10 percent with Peregrine Financial Group there. They said the number of cars is much higher other times of the year.
Many of them were especially concerned about the precedent the commission would set if they green-lighted Wasendorf's plan. The long-range land use map for the area dubs it a semi-public recreation area. To approve the plan, commissioners would also need to amend that land use map. If they did that, what's to stop the next person who wants to build an office or business in that area?
Hall said she feared urban sprawl encroaching on her neighborhood.
Contact Jeff Wilford at (319) 291-1423 or jeff.wilford@wcfcourier.com.
They believe the change would increase vehicular traffic through the area; it could damage or disrupt the environment around there; it would open the door to commercial development in that area and, once opened, that door would be hard to shut.
In the end, the Black Hawk County Planning & Zoning Commission agreed more with their concerns than economic development benefits supporters of the project touted. They voted, 4-1, to deny Wasendorf's request to rezone land from agricultural to light commercial, in effect killing Wasendorf's plan.
Wasendorf had earlier said he would move his business to another area if the neighborhood didn't want him.
Tuesday night, he said many of the concerns about his project were unfounded, and that some people had misconstrued or distorted his plans in order to galvanize opposition to the project.
"I guess I'm rather taken back, because I didn't expect when you try to bring something positive to the community, you're drug through the mud," Wasendorf said. "It's been a horrible experience. ... I'm not inclined to look for another site here."
Wasendorf had offered to buy 22.4 acres of land from Beaver Hills Country Club --- and the club's membership agreed to sell it --- pending rezoning approval, to build a new headquarters for his Peregrine Financial Group. He planned a three-story mirrored glass building that would use environmentally friendly technology and exceed greenhouse gas emissions standards set forth in the Kyoto Protocol.
Peregrine Financial Group is the 30th largest nonbank financial firm in the U.S., and has 240 offices in 25 countries. Wasendorf wanted to move most of his 70 Chicago employees to the new office, as well as 35 employees who already work in leased office space in Cedar Falls.
After the vote, Wasendorf said he would probably look elsewhere, outside Black Hawk County, for his new headquarters. "I grew up in Cedar Rapids, so I'll probably consider there."
A group of more than 50 people crowded into the council chamber at City Hall for the planning & zoning commission meeting, and spoke for and against it.
Steve Dust, executive director of the Greater Cedar Valley Alliance, said the building Wasendorf wanted to build would be a "cornerstone building that we could look at and brag about.
"How many times have we welcomed a business into our community, and the expansion of jobs that go along with it, and then said, 'Well, if they just would have done it a little bit better?'" Dust said.
Mark Miller, a resident of Cedar Falls and a member of the Beaver Hills Country Club, called it "a great benefit for our community, and it's the kind of growth that we're looking for.
"What we have here is the classic story of the goose and the golden egg," Miller said. "I think we have a very nice golden egg here, and we should take care of it."
Opponents did not deny the economic development benefits relocating Peregrine Financial would bring. But they said there were better places to put it.
"I love the idea of this development. I think it's wonderful," said Amy Lockard, who lives at 8824 Slap Tail Trail. "But I do think this is not the spot for that development."
Linda Hall, another resident of the Beaver Hills area, called it "the wrong place for the right idea." She gave commissioners a petition with 61 signatures opposed to the development.
Hall and other residents also questioned the impact the building, and its construction, might have on the environment and the water table. Several spoke of the wildlife that visits their yards, the quiet and the starry sky. They didn't want those animals chased or scared away, the noise of increased vehicle traffic or the light pollution to ruin their view of the night sky.
They also doubted a recent traffic study that showed 1,448 cars a day using the main road into the area now, and would only increase by five percent to 10 percent with Peregrine Financial Group there. They said the number of cars is much higher other times of the year.
Many of them were especially concerned about the precedent the commission would set if they green-lighted Wasendorf's plan. The long-range land use map for the area dubs it a semi-public recreation area. To approve the plan, commissioners would also need to amend that land use map. If they did that, what's to stop the next person who wants to build an office or business in that area?
Hall said she feared urban sprawl encroaching on her neighborhood.
Contact Jeff Wilford at (319) 291-1423 or jeff.wilford@wcfcourier.com.
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PK wrote on Mar 21, 2007 6:08 AM:
" What a mistake!!! We should open our arms to positive economic development opportunities for the Cedar Valley. Do not let another community succeeed in our narrow minded "not in my back yard" attitudes!!! What a wonderful way to keep good young professionals from leaving our area. There goes some more tax base! Come to Waterloo, Russ, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
Names wrote on Mar 21, 2007 7:20 AM:
" I would imagine if you looked at the names on the petition and understand that it is the Beaver Hills area, that would explain why they voted the way they did$$$$$$$$. I am sure Mrs Lockard's husband has some land Wasendorf could develope if he wanted "
WOW wrote on Mar 21, 2007 7:31 AM:
" This is crazy. Of course the people in Beaver Hills did not want it. They already live above there needs and are just like other well off people self centered. Now this business will move on based on keeping these people happy and our local government screwing up again. Can you blame Russ for wanting to not look at any other location? This would have been a great boost to our local economy having a front running financial company relocate from Chicago to the Cedar Valley! What an honor and it was treated like every other thing is area wrong! The cedar valley is truely a lost cause. Good luck in Cedar Rapids Russ I am sure they will treat you much better!!!!! "
was there! wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:17 AM:
" I am very disappointed at the fact that the P&Z committee could be so easily persuaded by a few bad apples, It also amazes me that one member of the committee could not stay awake during the discussions and then has the balls to vote against the building. What a big mistake for the community. "
WTF? wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:21 AM:
" Black Hawk County has done it again. Instead of bringing in 70-100 new high-paying jobs to the area, they potentially eliminated 20-30 jobs of existing area employees. Maybe if Mr. Sage could have stayed awake during the meeting he could have made a more educated decision. "
KZ wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:23 AM:
" Light pollution to ruin their view of the night sky??? LIGHT POLLUTION...what is this? If this woman wants to see some stars, she can come and meet my fist. Just because you have money to live out in Beaver Hills does not mean you have the brains. "
WOW wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:24 AM:
" The P&Z Commission is a JOKE!!! It is time to get those old bags out of there and get some young blood! "
Phil O. Sophy wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:38 AM:
" I'm willing to bet that if his name were Jim Mudd, Darrin Beck or Van G. Miller that there would have been no problem approving this. "
CURRENT EMPLOYEE wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:47 AM:
" I left the planning and zoning meeting last night literally astounded that residents and commission members could not objectively weigh the benefits of bringing Peregrine Financial Group, high paying jobs and unlimited potential economic growth for the Cedar Valley against the drawbacks of building on the proposed Beaver Hills land. As Mark Miller stated, PFG is a golden egg for the Cedar Valley! I have worked for other companies in the area and those companies pale in comparison to the benefits and opportunities available to me at PFG! I want to live and work in the Cedar Valley, I call this place my home! However, decisions like the one made last night make it very difficult for me and other young professionals like myself to stay in this area. The decision made last night is a perfect example of shortsighted thinking which will no doubt further contribute to the "brain drain." "
HW wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:48 AM:
" As an employee of Peregrine Financial Group I am slightly offended by some of the comments made. The idea that I might speed through the area hitting their children with my car is outrageous! I am a mother and I will be bringing my two small children to the daycare facility. Why would it be more likely that I will litter than their family or friends passing through the area? I assure you that I am not a litter bug. I have a very healthy respect of the environment. It is my understanding that the building will be so far off the beaten path that no one will even see it until they get there, the parking is to be underground and it is to be of minimal disruption to the environment and wildlife of the area. This decision seems to be made based entirely on fear and self-centeredness. What are they really afraid of? They won't even notice we are there. Meanwhile the Cedar Valley gains more taxpayers and consumers. On top of moving the people from Chicago, Peregrine will be doing some hiring as well. This will create many new jobs in all areas of the workforce. The building is going to be built by local contractors and that could help the electricians and sheet metal workers in my family as well as the numerous plumbers, sheet rockers and masons that I call friends. Please reconsider the decision and welcome Peregrine Financial Group to the Cedar Valley in a manner they deserve. "
Disappointed wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:56 AM:
" This seems to be par for the course for Black Hawk county to turn down a great oppurtunity to improve the Cedar Valley. As was brought up in the meeting last night, the county begs and makes concessions to get companies to build and locate in the area. When an oppurtunity such as this one presents itself, asking for the only concession to be where the building is located, the P&Z turns them down. This land is obviously more important than the problem of high taxes and low paying jobs. Which is two issues this project would help remedy. I suppose with the high property tax base that Black Hawk county has, the county can afford to throw money at other business to get them to come to the area. Wake up and see the oppurtunity!! "
rgitch wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:13 AM:
" This is the exact reason why Iowa college graduates are leaving the state for better opportunities. This firm will open doors for other financial institutions regardless of its location. It is really too bad that the influence of 61 people are shutting doors for potential financial opportunities that stretch across the globe.
As a working mother and employee of WAS I look forward to the day that I can drive my children to work with me and spend more time with them. I would even consider becoming a member of Beaver Hills to take advantage of golfing or swimming during the summer! This is a golden opportunity lost for my family as well.
We employees of the firm are respectful and responsible citizens of the Cedar Valley and are extremely disappointed of the outcome. I can guarantee that if this firm relocates to Cedar Rapids I am out of a job.
"
Typical wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:17 AM:
" I am stunned. I cannot believe that we have such short sighted, selfish, dishonest people in the Cedar Valley. This is how we support people from the Cedar Valley that have built a great business and want to bring it back? Obviously the people of the Beaver Hills area have no concern for the people of the county. The deer and fuzzy creatures yes, the people not so much. So much misinformation was put out that it is no suprise that Mr. Wasedorf feels like he was drug through the mud. Incredible. One of the large concerns was environmental. Good grief!!! How much more environmentally and ground water dangerous is a Golf course than a self contained building? The arguments against the project had nothing to do with what is good for Black Hawk county. My last question is have the people on the P&Z board been out to the area and looked at it? Maybe they should have before they voted. "
To Why Not wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:20 AM:
" It's my understanding that Mr. Wasendorf wants this to be an one-of-a-kind building in beautiful location that not crowded with factories, warehouses and other companies. "
Why? wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:28 AM:
" I wonder if you are all so offended that this did not pass, why did you not stand up for this proposal at the meeting last night? There were about 5 or 6 people who spoke for the Wasendorf idea, one being a Beaver Hills Country Club person who would like the cash for improvements, and two being the farmer and his son who want to sell off property to him. There were many many against the idea, probably 4 or 5 times as many against. Mrs. Wasendorf himself did not deign it important enough to show. And frankly, his spokesperson wasn't too convincing. If you're all so impassioned, where were you? Not at the podium it would seem.
Nobody said he wasn't welcome to the Cedar Valley area. There was info. presented last night that there is 25,000 acres available that would be zoned according to his needs. How is he the victim in this? It sounds like he had one idea, isn't flexible, and is now stomping off in a huff. Also, he has a house on an acreage about a mile or 2 just up the road from Beaver Hills. Why not in his front yard if he wants to take this out of the city? Why not disturb 1 family and not many?
The area is not zoned for his idea. Hence, that is the reason that it came before the zoning committee and hence, that is the reason it was denied. Why does he get to blow the zoning plans to smithereens? Why can't he be flexible and help the Cedar Valley with his jobs by having a back-up plan?
Also, his high paid employees are not excited about living in rural america. He said in the article they aren't. And he talks of running a shuttle to Chicago. Ever think that they will be taking the shuttle back to Chicago every day to live and that the real 'bucks' would go with them? "
HW wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:31 AM:
" Why not build in Cedar Rapids, Des Moines, Ames, Iowa City? If the Cedar Valley can't see the opportunity presenting itself here then why not give the opportunity to someone who will appreciate it? Do we want to improve the job market and standard of living for the people of the Cedar Valley? Or do we want to isolate ourselves and watch our economy go down the drain? I enjoy working for Russ Wasendorf and I know that many others will as well. Think about what this could mean for everyone and not just yourself. "
ES wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:32 AM:
" I'm very surprised that Amy Lockard had the audacity to stand up in front of a group of people and disapprove of the planned building sight. Given Lockard Realty's reputation for having such a major impact on the Cedar Valley's commercial development, I suppose she would like to see Peregrine Financial Group right next to the absurdly placed Wal-Mart. I find it quite ironic that when a proposed building directly affects a Lockard family member, the tables are turned. "
Matthew Jahnke wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:42 AM:
" Boy are we smart in the Cedar Valley. Last night (Tuesday) we rejected an application to change the Usage Map for Black Hawk County to allow the construction of a modern environmentally friendly building that would bring over 70 new high paying jobs from Chicago. Not only did we save ourselves from the ravages of a high tech green industry that has international reach invading our domain we outsmarted all of the other communities in North America who are spending literally millions of dollars to attract what was generously offered by a home grown success story. We also had the foresight to prevent opportunities for our children who have the drive and energy to explore cutting edge technologies without having to move to the Silicon Valley or Texas. I am sure that everyone is thrilled that we continue to support tax payer sponsored activities that bring low skilled low paying jobs that will perpetuate the brain drain and insure that our brightest and smartest are compelled to look elsewhere for challenging careers.
I’ve had the pleasure of working with Russ Wasendorf on a fundraising activity that has given over $100,000 in the last 4 years to local charities. To say that he is low key would be the same sort of understatement as saying Donald Trump has an ego. His business would bring a diversity of talent and experiences that has the potential to positively change land values, educational levels, service opportunities and basic quality of life standards in ways that macro economists get giddy about envisioning. But no we are too smart for that and I for one am embarrassed.
Matthew Jahnke
"
Tounge in Cheek wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:45 AM:
" The board did exactly the right thing. We don't need these guys moving in here bringing in thier high wages and opportunities for our workforce. I want to make sure that we keep paying taxes and tuition to educated our children so that they will have the opportunity to move out of state to find a living wage. I can only imagine the horror that went thru the board's mind at the thought of having to figure the property taxes on a $10 million building. God Bless the Board and Long Live Rath Packing. "
s wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:45 AM:
" Those who live in that area already have enough money, why do they care about high paying jobs and the good of the community? "
FairAndBalanced wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:52 AM:
" The wealthy of that quaint little province up the river have once again spoken and the message is clear: Their deer are more important than clean, quality jobs in a state-of-the-art building. Mr. Wasendorf, don't forget your urban neighbor right down the road. Waterloo would welcome your business, and there's plenty of room out along San Marnan Drive. Come on over! "
Gene wrote on Mar 21, 2007 10:00 AM:
" Apparently not one stopped to think about the millions of dollars which PFG would have generated in the Black Hawk County. Increased taxes for the county. Go figure! "
NIMBY wrote on Mar 21, 2007 10:03 AM:
" Once again the Not In My BackYard approach rears its ugly head. I get so sick and tired of all the people complaining that we have to go waterloo for a home improvement or Cedar rapids has this or Des moines has this, then this GREAT opportunity arises and the high and mighty band together to get it rejected. As for the environmental issues and the "Displacement" of wildlife. What do you think that area was like before YOU built your house. How many of you apply chemicals to your yard. Need I even mention how does the golf course stay so green and healthy. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Peregrine was going to do everything possible to be good neighbors and respect the environment. Not to mention th economic LONG TERM impact this would have had on the economy. The sad thing is many of the people that griped about this will be gone in 10 years and so will the business now. I want to apologize to Mr. Wasendorf and the people of Peregrine for the few that impacted this decision. Most of the Cedar Valley is not nearly as short sighted as others. I am sure you are aware of this as being a LONG TIME resident of the area. Another bit of shortsightedness falls in the philanthropic work this business would have brough to the area. Many local non profits like United Way, Boys and Girls and other organiztions would have benefited from an org. like this. I hope you can come down off your horse long enough to personally apologize to these groups.. "
Need new P&Z wrote on Mar 21, 2007 10:06 AM:
" The Black Hawk county supervisor need to review the Planning and Zoning Commision. This is a pure disgrace that they couldn't figure out a way to keep this employer in the area. Now days every other business is asking for so much tax relief that few are worth having. We get one who isn't holding up up with incentives, and our P&Z doesn't want them??? "
JD wrote on Mar 21, 2007 10:20 AM:
" While Beaver Valley residents complain about the traffic this office might bring, they take no responsibility for the traffic that their car-dependent lifestyles bring to this area. The geographical footprint for the proposed office is much, much smaller than the footprint of the suburban Beaver Valley residential area. There is no basis for the idea that residents have less impact on nature than a single office building.
Many, including Planning Commission members, suggest that there is adequate space in town for such an office. However, the same is true for residential housing. Keeping residences in town minimizes sprawl, traffic and minimizes the burden on services. Public safety considerations are at least as significant for a suburban development as for a single office building. For residents to place such burdens on this office, but not on themselves, is simple hypocrisy.
The reasons for building the office in this location are no different than the reasons homeowners have for wanting to live there. The potential problems and arguments against each seem to me to be no different. If the county can accommodate a golf course and large residential development in this area, there is no good reason that it can not also accommodate a high quality office building.
"
CF Resident wrote on Mar 21, 2007 10:41 AM:
" Contact the BH County Board of Supervisors to express your concerns on this economically devastating decision. "
Amazed wrote on Mar 21, 2007 10:44 AM:
" Linda Hall won for herself and is a loser for the community. Good job Linda you have done what most good attornies do. You have helped a few people at the detriment of the whole. You are a real piece of work. "
Get a life wrote on Mar 21, 2007 11:07 AM:
" Get a life Mrs Hall! You are such a hypocrit to say one building has more impact to the environment driving traffic then a neighborhood full of 2 to 3 car houses with yard chemical spraying rich. Beaver Hills should be embarrassed to have you as a neighbor. Speak up Beaver Hill neighbors. Is she really your representative? "
AMY WHO??? wrote on Mar 21, 2007 11:09 AM:
" Amy Lockhard should be the LAST person to talk about developing an area.
Lockhard development has destroyed thousands of acres of prime farmland in it's rush to develop every square foot of ground.
What a lost opportunity! Maybe now we will really see the power of the high and mighty real estate developers in this area.
"
Joke wrote on Mar 21, 2007 11:29 AM:
" What a disgrace. Black Hawk is ok with a Power Plant, but not a financial services firm. I move to build the Power Plant on Beaver Hills Property! "
Who is Linda Hall? wrote on Mar 21, 2007 11:34 AM:
" Who is this person? I saw that it was said she is an attorney. Attorney for who and what? She didn't help anyone but herself. "
GREAT IDEA wrote on Mar 21, 2007 11:37 AM:
" I bet if they wanted to put this in a middle to low class area of Waterloo it would not even matter what the homeowners wanted. It just goes to show if you have money you can throw it around and get your way with everything. I am so sick and tierd of the small group of people with money that run this whole community and get away with anything. They should reverse this and build not only that biulding but a mall and a car lot. I am sure that by now it is too late to convince them to build there. Good job BH county morons! "
We need to fix this wrote on Mar 21, 2007 11:38 AM:
" How do we fix this decision? Who do we contact and how do we contact them? Can this be fixed? "
Influence wrote on Mar 21, 2007 11:40 AM:
"
Apparently, in this town money buys influence. The vote was not even close. The P&Z Commission should be eliminated. "
To Who is Linda Hall wrote on Mar 21, 2007 11:43 AM:
" Watch out she is an attorney and may look to come after you too. Be careful what you say.
This was on a website called www.lawyers.com.
Linda A. Hall (Member) born Kalamazoo, Michigan, February 10, 1960; admitted to bar, 1986, Iowa; 1998, U.S. District Court, Northern District of Iowa. Education: Ripon College (B.A., 1982); University of Tulsa (J.D., 1986). Assistant Black Hawk County Attorney, 1987-1998. Former Member: Iowa County Attorneys Association; American College of District Attorneys. Member: Black Hawk County and Iowa State Bar Associations; Iowa Trial Lawyers Association. Practice Areas: Personal Injury; Criminal Law; General Practice; Litigation; Family Law. "
Dissapointed wrote on Mar 21, 2007 11:56 AM:
" I would just like to say that I am dissapointed that Ken Lockard had to send his wife to speak for him instead of himself having the guts to stand up and speak his mind. I am sure it was a political move on his part to distance himself from the meeting and have plausable denyability so he doesn't have to worry about looking bad. Apperantly developement is fine if he owns the land and brokers the deal but not if he is not involved. "
Bewildered wrote on Mar 21, 2007 12:16 PM:
" The city of Cedar Falls can annex 160
acres of prime farm land on south Union
Rd for housing but Russ Wasendorf can't
build an environmentally freindly office
building that the country club members want and voted to approve?
go figure "
DOI wrote on Mar 21, 2007 12:16 PM:
" Beaver Hills has destroyed LOTS of good nature and continues too. So does all these house out there. I say let him build there. I am sorry Amy Lockard feels the way she does, but I find it ironic now that this is in her back yard. Maybe now she knows what her husband's company has done to others. "
CURRENT EMPLOYEE wrote on Mar 21, 2007 12:27 PM:
" linda hall and Amy Lockhard lied to you “Neighbors of Beaver Hills”.
The building is facing north so you can not see it!
Light pollution? How when 80% of the building is in the ground?
Increase of 1200 cars a day???
70-100 employees coming and going is very easy math= 70 or 100 x 2 = 140-200
more cars a day
You do not care about the people in Blackhawk County! Why should we people of Blackhawk County care about you in Beaver Hills.
Contact the BH County Board of Supervisors they will understand and build!
If the people of Beaver Hill do not like it, they can move. Why have the businesses and the residents of Blackhawk County suffer because of some selfish, short minded people?
"
Not Dead Yet wrote on Mar 21, 2007 12:27 PM:
" It's not dead yet. The Board of Supervisors need to vote on it and need a super majority vote to pass it. They can over ride the P&Z Commissions vote. "
JC wrote on Mar 21, 2007 12:58 PM:
" Peregrine Financial Group we welcome you to Waterloo! I think your unique building design would be beautiful and outstanding next to VGM on San Marnan or between San Marnan and Highway 20. Visbility with easy access to the expressway system would be perfect! "
shortsighted wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:01 PM:
" I hope that 100 houses are able to be built on that 22 acres. I propose widening union road to six lanes and putting a Walmart and McDonalds at the beaver hills turn off.
I'm glad Russ is thinking of Cedar Rapids. It's an excellent choice, and he'll find it easier to get workers there too. "
PFG bites the dust! wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:01 PM:
" I guess the environmental "lovefest" of having a green/treehugger business in the Cedar Valley just came to an end. Timber! "
beaver wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:05 PM:
" “Neighbors of Beaver Hills”.
The building is facing north so you can not see it!
Light pollution? How when 80% of the building is in the ground?
Increase of 1200 cars a day??? 70-100 employees coming and going is easy math= 70 or 100 x 2 = 140-200
You do not care about the people in Blackhawk County! Why should we people of Blackhawk County care about you in Beaver Hills.
Contact the BH County Board of Supervisors they will understand and build!
If the people of Beaver Hill do not like it, they can move. Why have the businesses and the residents of Blackhawk County suffer because of some selfish, short minded people?
"
This is bad wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:05 PM:
" I was a little worried when I first heard of the plan to build in the Beaver Hills area - it was obvious the neighbors wouldn't go for it. However, this area absolutely NEEDS more jobs, including more that are higher-paying and those that appeal to the skills and educational background of college graduates. With that lacking in the area, they don't have much choice other than to move elsewhere. I had to do that myself. It's very unfortunate because I (and I'm sure others) would like to live in the area without sacrificing the availability of at least some career opportunities. There are some opportunites here, but not enough to make it realistic for people to stay in most cases. I think the P&Z made the wrong decision, because the positives of economic opportunities such as this impact the vast majority of us positively, at least in terms of the economic strength of the area, even if you don't work for that company. The concerns of a relatively small number of people quashed a project that would have been great for the area in general. We need more opportunities like this. If Beaver Hills was never going to be a realistic option, I think the P&Z Commission at least needed to provide an appealing alternative to Mr. Wasendorf. And to Mr. Wasendorf, please reconsider building somewhere in the metro area here. You and your business are both badly wanted and needed. "
Time To Drop Some Knowledge Again wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:08 PM:
" To "Joke", the power plant will be in the City of Waterloo, not unincorporated Black Hawk County. The City will annex the ground, and there is basically nothing the County can do about it. Enough with you now. Second,the P&Z Commission did what they were appointed to do: to follow the land use policies that the County has adopted. The request didn't meet 6 of the 8 policies as set forth, one of which is to encourage commercial development within the city limits. There is very little, if any commercial development within the unincorporated areas. It has always been that way. Approving this would basically open the door for commercial development in the county, where there are limited services. Why couldnt Mr. Wasendorf have found a site within the city? That is where all of the infrastructure to support such a request is. Although many people spoke out against the request, I dont think that was the reason that the commission RECOMMENDED denial of it. I think it had more to do with following the set policies of Black Hawk County.
Third, this is not a done deal like the article states. The action last night was a recommendation only! Now it will go to your elected Board of Supervisors, and that is where all the political and economical issues will be relevant, along with the final decision. The P&Z Commission was just doing what they were appointed to do, which is make recommendations based on the land use policies that Black Hawk County adopted.
"
This is Linda Hall. wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:11 PM:
" Her backgroung and bio is on the web. Go to; http://www.lawyers.com/Iowa/Waterloo/Gallagher,-Langlas-and-Gallagher-1002500-f.html "
Vorski wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:17 PM:
" Yes, once again, a fine example of "strength in numbers!!" How sad that those "voices" from the Beaver Hills area are so much louder and have so much more influence than those of us whole live in town! Give me a break about the wildlife/country living scenario. Ever driven out to the addition by Beaver Hills? It's just an exclusive bunch of rich people who live priveledged lives who shout louder than the common guy, and they drove away a good thing. SHAME ON THEM. "
Interesting question to the Why blog wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:24 PM:
" I guess this means that you either build in Amy's husbands development area over by Greenhill road or you don't develop in Black Hawk county. Is that what you were saying Amy? Your husbands way or no way? "
Seth wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:30 PM:
" Let's be clear, this is not the way CF feels. This is the opinion of a few of "high class" idiots. These people need to come out of their rose smelling bathrooms and realize this was a great opportunity that is wasted. With that said, the final blame is clearly on the P & Z commission. They should be able to see through this crap. they are on this commission to do what is best for the county. Clearly a change needs to be made. This is embarrassing for all the Cedar Valley. Congrats P&Z, you have shown your true colors!!! "
TO WHY wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:49 PM:
" Russ Wasendorf was present at the meeting last night and was shocked by the hurtful comments made by the opposition. In addition, not all information presented by the opposition was accurate and it seems as though speculation of what might be is carrying more weight than the facts regarding the proposed building. "
Vorski wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:53 PM:
" OK, the reality is this people. The people on the P/Z committee are "friends of friends", if you know what I mean. That was a done deal before the meeting. They all had coffee(?) together and decided that having someone else with "financial power" in the community is a threat to them and it was ALL OVER. This is sad, that Cedar Falls continues to let those "chosen few" run this community! Makes ya want to puke to say your from here. "
IDEA wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:58 PM:
" Drive through beaver hills every chance you get. Show them what a large number of cars can be. I think everyone that supports this project should go out there and set up a protest at the front of the entrance. Send letters to all the people living there and to the business they work at showing that the strength lies in numbers. Not the number of people who live in that area but the number of people who support this project! Stand up for what you believe in putting stuff on the courier will get you no where let yourself be heard!!!! "
Who's P&Z Commission wrote on Mar 21, 2007 2:23 PM:
" REMEMBER....
This was NOT the City of Cedar Falls's
Planning & Zoning Commission that made this decision....
It was the BLACKHAWK COUNTY P&Z Commission....big difference.
Point the finger of Blame at the right
commission.... "
Can't Believe It wrote on Mar 21, 2007 2:26 PM:
" What an opportunity lost here. By the looks of this Blog 99% of the people commenting are all for this development. Bottom line, if this is not a done deal as one of you claim, who do we contact to voice our opinion and concern so that we can perhaps get this reversed. If everyone here makes a call and encourages others to do the same maybe we can change this decision and keep the business and our young people here. "
Chicago wrote on Mar 21, 2007 2:40 PM:
" HAHA..You people Baffle me..Why would you turn down a BIG BOY?? This opportunity will NEVER come around to Waterloo/CF again.. Enjoy farming. "
Concerned Reader wrote on Mar 21, 2007 2:46 PM:
" I agree that it's unfortunate to miss out on the economic development. But, the big question is why Wasendorf wanted to locate in a rural, residential area. He knew the land use of the area before proposing the project. It would be like suggesting on putting this building right into your residential neighborhood, or maybe George Wyth Park, because he likes the trees.
The strange thing is that Wasendorf has PLENTY of places in the Cedar Valley to put his nice building, yet he seems to be the one who thinks money talks, and if he dangles development and jobs wherever he wants, he can get it. Now he acts like the kid who didn't get his way, now he's going to take his toys and go home. (We've see lots of sports teams attempt this same kind of business coercion.) He just seems unreasonable in a case that could have all kinds of potential reasonable solutions.
Planning and Zoning's purpose is to uphold a long-term development plan for their area of charge (in this case, the county). They did what they were supposed to do. We should never do development at any cost. The P&Z is our defense against our often knee-jerk reaction to take any offer of jobs. "
DW wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:00 PM:
" I moved to Cedar Falls last August from Des Moines, where I had lived my entire life. I relocated with my fiance while he is at UNI and I started working for Peregrine Financial Group. We had every intention of moving back to Des Moines, or some place where the jobs are good. But, after Mr. Wasendorf told us of his proposed plan to build a new building here in the Cedar Valley, I didn’t hesitate in saying that we would be staying in Cedar Falls. What a great opportunity for college graduates and people like myself to stay in the area. It’s too bad that 1 person can’t see what a great impact this would be for the community of Cedar Falls and the State of Iowa. "
B&J wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:03 PM:
" We have lived in the Beaver Hills area since 1978. We applaud the P&Z Commission for their votes in FOLLOWING the land use guidelines that were set up (as they stated - years ago before they were appointed to the commission). All of you who are writing in criticism of them should realize that those are the kinds of people we WANT on that commission -not only for this project -but for ALL proposals coming before them. We are glad that they are not letting $$$$$ signs get in the way of making their decision and we encourage the Board Of Supervisors to do the same. Please read the comments of "Time to Drop Some Knowledge Again" - this explains it so well. "
Stick in the Mudd wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:06 PM:
" I can't believe that this happened. It is strange that the Beaver Hills membership approved the sale of the land but then some of those same people go against this. I think it is a great idea to not bring people who are making 200k plus a year to the area. That would just have a terrible effect on the area! Did I spell Mudd right? "
tO CONCERNED READER wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:10 PM:
" I do understand your comments, but as a member of Beaver Hill CC Russ wanted to build near his home and also buy a piece of land (over market value) in which the money could help BHCC do some much needed renovation. Russ is proud to be from the Cedar Valley, and has proven by keeping a home, business and paying taxes in BH Co. He is a positive, successful man who has been very generous to our community. "
Cedar Falls Business Owner wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:10 PM:
" Our organization is astounded that this project was denied. Its truly sad that the area will not benefit from PFG gaining approval from the commission. I hope there is an appeal process and Mr. Wasendorf is willing to give it another chance. I would be more than happy to get some signatures showing support. "
JD wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:21 PM:
" Unlike Wyth Park, the property in question is private and the seller (country club) would be a neighbor. So, no, this is not like putting the office in Wyth Park.
I think people living in the Cedar Falls historical area or near University Avenue would be surprised to learn that it is unprecented for commercial and residential areas to be near each other.
Perhaps Beaver Hills residents might note the nearby homes when they are driving to and stopping at the businesses in our towns.
Unlike what a previous writer suggests, the Wasendorf building would not placed in the middle of the existing suburban home development at the Beaver Hills Country Club and the proximity of the building would be no worse (in fact much better) than what most of us happily accept as a matter of course.
Why would Wasendorf want to locate to a "rural residential area" (sic)? Well, why did people put homes and a golf course in previously undeveloped land? Why would the reasons be any different?
"
To Vorski wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:35 PM:
" Vorski, that is one of the most idiotic statements ever made on this site. You are the reason that these blogs should be shut down. For the LAST time, this is NOT IN CEDAR FALLS! They had nothing to do with this!! And no I dont know what you mean by "Friends of friends". There was no meeting with coffee to decide this much earlier, as that would be illegal.
Get a clue, dude! "
You Should B Ashamed wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:36 PM:
" Gee it seems sort of hypocritical that the people of Beaver Hills don't mind building their oversized houses and their country club in this area and then drive their gas guzzling SUVs, but a business minded man wants to build in this area to encourage economic growth in the community - they scream about the environment. Give me a break! "
Concerned about "Concerned Reader" wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:39 PM:
" Normally a company like this does not come in a provide a better environment for its employees and incentives like proximity to a good neighborhood for building and buying houses, proximity to a golf course for employee satisfaction and a building that fits into nature to offer a harmony experience for its employees. Sure Russ Wasendorf tried to do something better and unique then having the standard "Office Space Cubicle farm" you find in Industrial parks. The mistake he made is that he didn't hire Lockard and retain a certain law firm or a certain attorney from a law firm. "
Who to Contact wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:41 PM:
" to "Cant believe it", you would want to contact the 5 members of the Board of Supervisors for Black Hawk County. You know, the ones that you voted for. For the last time everybody, the P&Z Commission only gives recommendations, and the final decision is made by the Supervisors. So the deal is not dead in the water....yet.
Also, very good points by "Concerned Reader". "
Reader wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:42 PM:
" I am disgusted with this decision. It all has to do with what the over privileged Beaver Hills community wants-- they have nothing better to do. 61 names, what a joke! How about taking a petition on how many people wanted it here! I would sign it in a heartbeat. What about the petition with the proposed coal power plant? We all know that even though there was a petition against it (with more than 61 signatures)-- it's going to happen. I want to personally thank every single one of you in the Beaver Hills community that put a stop to this. Just because YOU don't need those jobs, doesn't mean the rest of us don't. thank you so much from the bottom of my heart, and I have an idea that I could share with you where you can stick your petition now! "
TO KZ wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:43 PM:
" To quote: "If this woman wants to see some stars, she can come and meet my fist" That is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time! I like the way you think..... "
john c brandt wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:45 PM:
" now u know why the cedar rapids area has grown so fast /the click always wins by indecent ways / the whole area would have gained the airport maybe could have been self supporting / all the good farm land has been rezoned accorping to owns it / the beaver valley is poor farm land / the wild life will still be there / as for the night stars how many go outside to see them it would cut into their cable or club time /oh their internet time too / the rich are better than the less whealthy / the who u know not who u are / i rest my point / tnks jcb "
Beaver Hills wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:45 PM:
" I really like the Beaver Hills golf course and that neighborhood area. I thought it would be a great place to live but now I see that the neighbors want nothing new there. It is all about themselves. Why would anyone want to live by a bunch of busy bodies who spend too much time interferring in their neighbors or protential neighbors life? "
This is bad wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:48 PM:
" I was a little worried when I first heard of the plan to build in the Beaver Hills area - it was obvious the neighbors wouldn't go for it. However, this area absolutely NEEDS more jobs, including more that are higher-paying and those that appeal to the skills and educational background of college graduates. With that lacking in the area, they don't have much choice other than to move elsewhere. I had to do that myself. It's very unfortunate because I (and I'm sure others) would like to live in the area without sacrificing the availability of at least some career opportunities. There are some opportunites here, but not enough to make it realistic for people to stay in most cases. I think the P&Z made the wrong decision, because the positives of economic opportunities such as this impact the vast majority of us positively, at least in terms of the economic strength of the area, even if you don't work for that company. The concerns of a relatively small number of people quashed a project that would have been great for the area in general. We need more opportunities like this. If Beaver Hills was never going to be a realistic option, I think the P&Z Commission at least needed to provide an appealing alternative to Mr. Wasendorf. And to Mr. Wasendorf, please reconsider building somewhere in the metro area here. You and your business are both badly wanted and needed. "
Beaver Hills Resident wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:51 PM:
" I just want to state that I have lived in Beaver Hills for years and was all for this project, as were many others in the area, including Jim Mudd Sr, who would have been one of the few who could actually see the building from his home. Don't assume that every Beaver Hills resident was against this. This building would have been a great addition to the neighborhood while increasing home values. "
To Concerned Reader wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:53 PM:
" This land is NOT zoned residential. It is currently zoned semi public/recreational (country club). The soil tests from this land also show that it is not suitable for agricultural development. Furthermore, a fair amount of the land is actually located in a flood plain. "
to B&J wrote on Mar 21, 2007 4:01 PM:
" B&J is that your screen name for Amy and Linda. The only WE that supports the P&Z commission is the two of you. The rest of the 61 names from the Beaver Hills neighbor petition was obviously due to your SMEAR campaign. Nice work BJ. "
To Chicago wrote on Mar 21, 2007 4:03 PM:
" Get a clue. It sounds like people in the area want the business to come here. The chosen neighborhood is controversial. The majority was shot down by a powerful minority (I know the people of Chicago can relate on that point). And very few people in the metro area actually farm. Your comments only suggested you don't know the facts or aren't paying attention to them. If you want to post, please keep it constructive and check the insults. "
Petition? wrote on Mar 21, 2007 4:11 PM:
" Was this petition limited to adults or did all of your children vote too? "
Reader wrote on Mar 21, 2007 4:15 PM:
" I am very sorry I couldn't attend the meeting to stand up for this. I guess I was too busy working my low paying job to put food on the table for my family. To all of you who signed that petition-- Do you know what that is like? I am sure you have no idea what it is like to actually "work". Or do you just have nothing better to do? Apparantly you have WAY to much time on your hands. Maybe we could find out what business owner or wife/husband signed the petition- and protest the business owners to let them know just how happy we are with them. Just remember Beaver Hill community business owners- WE ARE YOUR CUSTOMERS!! Don't forget how you ended up being able to afford those big, fancy houses over looking the golf course. Your customers can make you or break you! "
Blame to go around wrote on Mar 21, 2007 4:28 PM:
" The residents of Beaver Hills seem to be quashing a great thing mostly because they're worried about the view out their window and traffic near their street. I understand it on some level, but we really need that business, additional tax base and jobs. On the other hand, if the business owner wants to live in the Cedar Valley and is dedicated to it, you'd think he'd understand and at least look at other locations in CF or Waterloo instead of leaving town altogether. We all don't get things to go our way sometimes. If there's a good reason for it, one needs to be cool about it and look for the next best option. Saying that you won't build anywhere in BH County after having previously announced your dedication to the area sounds like some sort of childish sulking or retribution. It sounds like most people want his business here. Will another location in the area not be good enough? "
lostntulsa wrote on Mar 21, 2007 4:44 PM:
" Another example of a very small group of people holding back development in the Cedar Valley. They had to learn this lesson from the small group in Waterloo that stopped development at Dog Track.
Cedar Valley - 0 Nay Sayers - 2 "
Cedar Rapids rolling out the red carpet wrote on Mar 21, 2007 4:50 PM:
" Why wouldn't a progressive community want a vastly successful entrepreneur developing in their area, providing high-paying jobs, and building with a "green" attitude. It's unfortunate if a minority of well-to-do residents are actually the ones beating down true economic development in a wonderful area. I'm sure Cedar Rapids will be thrilled to invite this gentleman and his ventures to their area. "
Urban Sprawl? wrote on Mar 21, 2007 5:01 PM:
" "Hall said she feared urban sprawl encroaching on her neighborhood." I thought they were trying to build in Cedar Falls. Maybe I missed something? "
To "To Concerned Reader" wrote on Mar 21, 2007 5:04 PM:
" Actually, the land is zoned "Ag-Limited", not Semi-Public/Recreational. That is what is listed on the Future Land Use Map for that area. Also, the soil "tests" that you refer to (they are not tests, it is from a soil survey) shows that the soils are not good for ANY development, not just agricultural.
And as a side note, everyone on here is blasting the residents of Beaver Hills for the request being denied, however they werent the ones who voted on it. It was the P&Z Commission, who took into account many other factors to make its decision, not just because some of the residents didnt want it.
I wish some people would get a clue! "
Husband to PFG employee wrote on Mar 21, 2007 5:06 PM:
" I was looking very forward to PFG moving to Cedar Falls. It seemed like such a great thing for the area. If PFG ends up in Cedar Rapids my wife would have to commute or find a new job. Please reconsider for the better of the community. "
CRAZY wrote on Mar 21, 2007 5:28 PM:
" Every chance you have drive through Beaver Hills honk your horn! Protest this choice that was made. Be a voice for this issue. If we all band as one and stay on this issue until it goes the way the public wants it we will win. I know everyone says that the few people in this town with money win but we can change that. Stop shopping at the business the people in Beaver Hills own we know who lives there and for the most part know the companies they own. Stand up for what you believe in and do not give up. It is time the little people in the Cedar Valley have a voice!!!!! "
No More Trails wrote on Mar 21, 2007 5:29 PM:
" Since the site would not have a city sewer system, were they planning to build a wastewater treatment plant or lagoon adjacent to the building or just have a "really big septic system" or holding tank? A company of that size would of and should of had access to competent engineer that would of identified all those potential problems during the proposal planning phase of the project before a rezoning request was initiated. The plan was doomed from the beginning since it would not neet the zoning requirements "plain and simple". YES, YES, it would be great to have this company in the area (Cedar Falls or Waterloo) and to have the economic benefits of the business and employees. If this person actually believed in the area, he knows that THERE ARE MANY OTHER QUALITY SITES IN THE AREA, but it sounds more like this company is actually saying to the area that: "since you don't like my building idea, I'm GOING TO TAKE MAY BALL AND GO HOME", just like the kids on the school yard do when they don't like the rules or the outcome. The County Supervisors could overrule the P&Z Commission for correctly doing the assigned tasks and then the County Supervisors would have to agree to supply the needed infrastructure (possibly build a County operated sewer system or pay to pipe it to the Cedar Falls sewer system) for the area. - - - We encourage each of the Black Hawk County Supervisors to do the proper thing and NOT overrule the P&Z Commision ruling and to DENY the rezoning request and also to ENCOURAGE this company to look at other REALISTIC sites in the area. "
WOW wrote on Mar 21, 2007 5:40 PM:
" Wow....is about all I can say!! I can guarantee you the people complaining about this are the same people who sit and complain everyday about how our town has nothing to offer!! We can't get any good shopping or places to eat in our town...well NO CRAP...it is because people like you are too stupid to realize how things work!! What a disgrace....so there may be a nice beautiful building in 'your neck of the woods'and yes there may be more traffic...but do you honestly not think the great benefits for YOUR community would outweight the bad! OH I HOPE MANY MANY PEOPLE TAKE A STAND AND FIND A WAY TO FIGHT THIS!! Or, since we all go shopping already in Cedar Rapids - should we just move there?? FRUSTRATING!!! "
Good call wrote on Mar 21, 2007 5:44 PM:
" By the P&Z. Concerned Reader and Time to Drop Some Knowledge summed it up best. This area was not designed to be commercial or industrial. Just because someone comes in the with the promise of jobs doesn't mean any government entity should abandon it's rules or plan designs to accomodate a person. If Wasendorf truly wanted to relocate here he would have an alternative site plan in mind. Instead, he's been consistent in both articles about this that he's willing to move on elsewhere. So much for him being a self-described "leader" and looking out for the Cedar Valley. Why not stick around and find an area that his business will fit into the zoning and land-use map requirements? There was probably more to this relocation than what appeared on the surface. If not, build here anyway. Anyhow, thanks to P&Z to upholding the current laws of the land. "
very disappointed CF resident wrote on Mar 21, 2007 6:04 PM:
" Does anyone happen to know this Wasendorf man. If so, please advise him of this blog - so he can see how badly the community does want him here. And not to judge the Cedar Valley on a handful of extremly selfish homeowners who don't care about the well being of the communtiy as a whole!! "
Out-of-towner wrote on Mar 21, 2007 6:15 PM:
" I stand by my statement on an earlier blog, even though I was told that 'when I left , I raised the I.Q. of the Cedar Valley'...
Why would ANYONE want to locate a business of this caliber in the Cedar Valley. Bunch of corrupt politicians in the CV will continue to do what THEY want to do. Glad I moved south. "
HA! wrote on Mar 21, 2007 7:40 PM:
" To respond to the comments about bringing 70-100 "high paying" jobs to the community......I work for this company and it is hardly a high paying job, it all goes into Russ' pocket. His pompous and arrogant attitude were shown clearly in response to this decision. I will say that it should have passed and was a great idea. Cedar Rapids, HERE WE COME!! "
To HA! wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:32 PM:
" You obviously don't work at our company. If you did then you would know that we get paid well and get all of the advantages to grow ourselves and our compensation. You obviously are a fake and part of the smear campaign against Wasendorf. "
NQM7 wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:35 PM:
" Amazing. We should bend over backwards for this outfit to locate here. Instead we bend over forwards for the LS Toxic Plant people. We're "high wage" earners here in CF, but will move as soon as (early) retirement. Stupid beyond stupid provincials. "
JD wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:38 PM:
" This area is not "designed" to be commercial or industrial? A suburban housing development and a golf course are no problem, but an office building is?
I guess some must understand the Lord's will better than I. "
Libertarian wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:48 PM:
" Contribute your name on a petition in favor of the development:
http://www.petitiononline.com/prgincv/petition.html
Send the petition URL to your friends and neighbors. "
todd wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:00 PM:
" if you are upset with this decision by the county P and Z--the board of supervisors get to vote on it next week. let them know how you feel!!!!
BH Co. Supervisor contact
(319)833-3003
or
supervisors@co.black-hawk.ia.us
or
suite 203
316 E 5th St
Waterloo, IA 50703--- "
tim wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:04 PM:
" for clarity--the city of CF is for this development--the COUNTY P & Z voted against it. Beaver Hills Country Club voted overwhelmingly to sell the land. 125-12 "
TO HA! wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:05 PM:
" Instead of anonymously bashing your company on an online blog...maybe you should look for a new job or grow a set and address the issues you have regarding your compensation package with Russ! You are unbelievable and are obviously lacking in the integrity department! "
pwned wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:05 PM:
" What pisses me off the most about this decision is NOT the County P&Z voting against this proposal; it is the arrogance of the residents of Beaver Hills! These people don't care "about the environment"! Look at their PERFECTLY manicured lawns! Look at their monsterous homes! "Light pollution" "night sky"?! Who do these people think they are fooling here? This is simply disgusting. Amy Lockard raising concerns about development? That made my jaw literally drop! Her husband's company has ruined MUCH more ag land in the Cedar Valley than anyone could have imagined only a few years ago! Hopefully the newly-elected Democrats on the Board of Supervisors can see beyond their liberal agendas and do Mr. Wasendorf right and reverse this terrible, terrible decision! "
IA BA '92 wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:19 PM:
" I have been trying to return to IA since 2001. Every 6 months I (& approx 30 other IA grads with whom I remain in contact) receive an invitation from the Governor's office to a reception in my area for the purpose of trying to 'recruit' us back to IA. My siblings (and I) who live on the East Coast receive invitations from the "IA Corridor" (CR/IC) to do the same. ALL 32 of us realistically know that we would have to take a 25-30K minimum paycut to move back to IA. MOST of us realize the value of taking that paycut and want to do it BUT there are no jobs in IA. I don't get this...there is give and take in every situation - this successful man wants to bring a new industry to IA AND build 'green'. Why not let him? "
Commuter in Chicago wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:27 PM:
" Are you kidding me?!?!? I'm from CF and currently live in a western suburb of Chicago. I would LOVE to give up my 3 hour commute per day to walk to work. If this company is considering bringing people to CF who make $200K don't you think they would be walking to work from their homes in Beaver Hills? Come on! Traffic increase?!? These people would probably be your neighbors! "
Daniel Lockard wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:37 PM:
" Whoever wrote the comment about my mother obviously doesn't know her. She speaks for herself, and not by proxy for anyone else.
-Daniel Lockard "
Definiton of Blog wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:44 PM:
" Main Entry: weblog
Part of Speech: n
Definition: a personal Web site that provides updated headlines and news articles of other sites that are of interest to the user, also may include journal entries, commentaries and recommendations compiled by the user; also written [web log], [Weblog]; also called [blog]
Usage: computing
you are all wrong about this.... this is a comment list, not a blog. "
money talks wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:49 PM:
" It just goes to show money talks and unfortunately our local politicians prefer to keep the big money people happy. Maybe its because they can cause the most problems, I dont know. Really too bad, could have been a great addition to the community "
Disgusted & Amazed wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:49 PM:
" I attended the meeting. Several points: 1. To the person who questioned why supporters of the plan did not speak, perhaps we were pretty intimidated by the very hostile environment, including the P&Z. 2. I heard about the increased traffic on Skyline Dr. ad nauseum. Please drive out to the area on Union Rd. turn on to Skyline Dr. and see how far you drive to enter Beaver Hills Dr., which is private. It is less than a fourth of a block. Why would Skyline Dr. have increased traffic? You have to live there or visit there to go there. And by the way, the land under consideration is so far away from being farm land, it isn't even funny. To anyone but a farsighted individual like Russ, it looks unusable. 3. The most idiotic thing I heard at the meeting was that the parking lot would have to be lighted and the light would bother them at their house. That would be over a hill, through a forest of trees and almost totally across the golf course, right?? 4. There was wild life on the area when it ws a farm, there was plenty of wild life on the golf course before there were houses. There is still plenty of wildlife with all the housing development. Beaver Hills Golf Course is an accredited Audobon Course, meaning utmost protection to wildlife is in the program. 5. The BHCC members were very happy with the golf course surrounded only by farm land. Many viewed the housing development with apprehension, but no protest was made. After making it through the building mess, it appeared that the housing is not that detrimental after all. That is, until the assinine petition with 61 names was presented. Big deal! BHCC had over 100 votes in support of the project. And I imagine we could have a petition with thousands of signers. Grow up, Cedar Valley authorities. This vote was insensitive and irresponsible, and needs to be overthrown by the Black Hawk County Supervisors. "
Amazing wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:54 PM:
" What a bunch of bone heads! Do you know how many cities would bend over backwards to bring such a company to their community? Think about what kind of message this will send to other potential companies who may have considered setting up shop in WCF. I'd be scratching WCF off the list as a site to consider locating to. No wonder the Des Moines metro is growing so much, and WCF continues to decay. "
South Waterloo wrote on Mar 21, 2007 10:04 PM:
" This is another example of the poor decisions that are being made by the the pubicly elected officials of the Cedar Valley.
Mr. Wasendorf was making an attempt to bring his business back to this area and made what it seems many believe was a genuine offer to the Beaver Hills Country Club only to be turned away by a few select citizens and thier selfish intentions.
I would like to invite Mr. Wasendorf to look at the many other locations in the Cedar Valley; one being the San Marnan Drive Hwy 20 corridor.
I hope that the oppositions of a SELECT FEW haven't already ruined the chances of bringing this busines to OUR community.
I have no doubt that the opinions of these select few are not the opinion of the majority of the people in the Beaer Hills Area. Surely those residents can see the benefit of this addition to the Valley. But unfortunatly it looks like thier voices as few as there were have been heard.
I for one, have no problem with bringing new business to this community that is starving for high paying jobs not to mention the additional tax base.
Although there are many other excellent locations for this business to develop; Mr. Wasendorf: If you insist on being at Beaver Hills, at least wait until our board of supervisors has the opportunity to look at this agian and DO THE RIGHT THING IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CEDAR VALLEY before you pick up and go. Trust me the Vast majority of Black Hawk County wants you and your company here!!!!! "
hoganj300 from the Quad Cities wrote on Mar 21, 2007 10:37 PM:
" I can't believe that board said no to an huge economic opportunity for the Cedar Valley!! I hope the people on this board will all be replaced next election. These homeowners just cannot swallow CHANGE!! I feel very sorry for you guys. "
B. wrote on Mar 21, 2007 11:12 PM:
" I've noticed most people complaining about the "well off" people that "don't know what work is." I myself am a new small business owner, I work extremely hard every day, usually upwards of 10-12 hours (including weekends.) Unfortunately, it is a very long road to success and I am nowhere near the top... yet. Most people that are "well off" around here actually have worked hard for the things they have. Many of them took that risk of starting local businesses, or obtained college degrees and worked a number of years before finding success. Instead of turning this into a hatefest for the well off, or being childish enough to drive by and honk, we should focus on the actual facts. That being said, I actually do disagree with the protesting by the Beaver Hills people. From what I understand the building would not interfere with the wildlife or views anymore than another large home being built, and I doubt they would put a giant neon sign out there to pollute the nighttime sky. And still, on the other hand, why would Mr. Wassendorf completely give up on all of BHC? Surely there are other sites close to the same location that could be obtained and/or rezoned. It should also be noted that PFG was going to employ 70-100 people, however according to the article at least 70 people were going to be moving from the current HQ in Chicago, and 35 from Cedar Rapids. So it seems that we would gain a minimal amount of jobs given that most are already taken; instead we would gain a large handful of local residents. This would still benefit our community, but won't necessarily create jobs. The bottom line is, this would have been great for the Cedar Valley and hopefully someone can convince Mr. Wassendorf to find another CV location, convince the protestors that it will not disturb their neighborhood, or convince P&Z that it's benefits strongly outweigh the negatives. Either way, good luck with that. "
JUSTICE wrote on Mar 22, 2007 7:07 AM:
" Lets show them how we feel! CONTACT: BH Co. Supervisor contact (319)833-3003 or supervisors@co.black-hawk.ia.us ....ALSO...http://www.petitiononline.com/prgincv/petition.html(to sign a petition)!! Obivously 60 names make a difference - lets give them hundreds... hundreds of emails and phone calls!!! "
Out of State wrote on Mar 22, 2007 7:08 AM:
" I am so disappointed to hear that Cedar Falls voted against this great opportunity. I moved from the Cedar Valley 10 years ago after college graduation. I would love to come back to the area but due to not enough high paying jobs it has made it impossible. The Cedar Valley is a great place to call home and raise a family. Sad you can live 4 hours away in Illinois (and not Chicago) and have incomes doubled from the local area. "
Vernon Weems wrote on Mar 22, 2007 7:21 AM:
" Russ Wasendorf I extend to you and invitation to come to Waterloo with you Peregrine Financial Group relocation. I know urban flight from Chicago was your reason for wanting to go to Cedar Falls. For me urban flight is another by-product of exclusion and bigotry. Waterloo is probably to Black for you but if you like the Cedar Valley it where you should be. Build your office building in Waterloo and homes in the Beaver Hills Country Club area. I can suggest two places one by Allen's Urgent Care which should give you the demographics of Cedar Falls. And the next is in downtown Waterloo where you can lead the revitalization of the heart and soul of the Cedar Valley. The second would require for you to be one who embraces inclusion and I bet you don't have what it takes to do that. Another reason Waterloo needs you is you mentioned starting an airlines and we have an airport that can't get planes to serve it. One thing for certain people won't let you come into there home and move the furniture and that is what Cedar Falls is saying. Well Waterloo is bare so move you stuff in and we'll help. Of all the communities (Cedar Falls, Ames, Cedar Rapids and Des Moines) mentioned Waterloo is the only one who will kiss an dirty baby and smile. "
Once again wrote on Mar 22, 2007 8:11 AM:
" One always wants to be certain you understand the facts of the issue before opening ones mouth...
This project was turned down by the BLACK HAWK COUNTY P&Z, NOT by the Cedar Falls P&Z or the city of Cedar Falls.
Dont even get me started on the differences between the towns in the Cedar Valley... "
t wrote on Mar 22, 2007 8:18 AM:
" this is not a CEDAR FALLS decision, this is the BALCK HAWK COUNTY P&Z. The city of CF is for this devolpment. CALL the BH supervisors and let them know how you feel. "
rd wrote on Mar 22, 2007 8:34 AM:
" If Mr. Wassendorf was committed to the notion of a Cedar Valley location the rejection of his initial propsal would not deter his efforts. To expect an area like Beaver Hills to accept this development without being "sold" was an underestimation on his part. His company didn't achieve it's size by shrinking from challenges, he should put on his salesman shoes and dazzle these folks, besides they are all high end prospects for his firm. Perhaps he should think bigger, and develope an entire office park between CF and Waverly to rival the CF industrial park, build it and they will come! "
Mr. Corrections wrote on Mar 22, 2007 8:39 AM:
" To "Out of State"....This development isn't in Cedar Falls, so stop saying that you are disappointed in them!!! Know what you are talking about before you come on this site talking your nonsense!!!! And to Amazing's comment at 9:54 PM, you are exactly right, how many CITIES would bend over backwards for that development? I am sure Waterloo and Cedar Falls would, but this development was proposed out in the COUNTY, where there are limited services to support such a development. So you are correct in saying that CITIES would want it, but I highly doubt that any other county would want it where there are limited services. "
Marie wrote on Mar 22, 2007 8:42 AM:
" I can't believe we passed up a good company that wanted to come into our area. The University, arts, taxes, our people etc. would benefit from this kind of company. The people who live around BH already create lots of traffic so why is that such a big issue. I truly believe we passed up
a good deal and it sounds like
he will go elsewhere.
"
To HA! wrote on Mar 22, 2007 8:50 AM:
" YOU are a poseur. The least people can do on these message boards is be honest and not try to fool others about who they are. I for one will be contacting the County P&Z and the Board of Supervisors, info listed below and sign my name to a petition to get this Company here, in fact, my entire family will sign the petition to reverse this decision. People, do NOT give up! Many times it takes repeat efforts to get zoning changed. Don't be weak in the knees and sit back and whine. Get going on getting a new vote. If thousands are for this and 61 are against it, believe that it can happen and DO something about it! Contact the Board today! Be a voice for positive change. It's inevitable that CF will spread out that way over the next 10-15 years anyway, it may as well be Peregrine there. Or, maybe the Beaver Hills queenies prefer a Walmart or Costco nearby. "
LeftTheValley wrote on Mar 22, 2007 9:00 AM:
" We left the Cedar Valley in the '90s and have lived in significantly larger and (very nice) urban areas in three states since that time, areas which offer much far more and greater career opportunities and recreational/leisure options. We've considered a move back to the Cedar Valley to raise our children in the community. The trade offs would be worth it if we could continue our careers, but we cannot consider this because of limited career opportunities in the community. I know well how one successful business can attract more to an area - when someone wants to move an established, successful business TO IOWA, it makes no sense to turn them away. I suspect the Beaver Hills location is a red herring in this issue. There is a pattern of isolation by *some* leaders in the Cedar Valley that needs to be examined if the area is ever to move forward and grow in a meaningful direction. "
Be Heard wrote on Mar 22, 2007 9:04 AM:
" Do it everyone! It will take less time than it did for you to blog. Obivously signed petitions work. Just paste this and sign.
http://www.petitiononline.com/prgincv/petition.html
I also noticed there are phone #s and email addresses to contact in other blogs. Take the few seconds it takes to make a difference. "
Reader wrote on Mar 22, 2007 9:26 AM:
" To Adam Butler! Thank you for creating the petition! I have signed it and so has my husband! Thank you very much. Please everyone sign this petition so we can make a difference. This is the only way we can stand up together against the forces that be! "
d wrote on Mar 22, 2007 9:41 AM:
" What I would like to ask those of you who think that those residents are so wrong for not wanting that business to be built in their neighborhood is what would you think if it was built right in the middle of your neighborhood? And why are all of the suggestions for other places for him to look for a spot to build in industrialized or already business-like settings and not in the middle of someone else's neighborhood. "
ED Guy wrote on Mar 22, 2007 9:47 AM:
" I was born and raised in CF and now do Economic Development work in Wisconsin. Russ give me a call! I have a perfect site for you. "
SJS wrote on Mar 22, 2007 9:54 AM:
" I still say if he wanted to put it anywhere else it would not matter what the people with homes wanted. If you want to disrupt the lower to middle class it is easy we do not have a voice "
Agree!!! wrote on Mar 22, 2007 10:12 AM:
" I agree with PWNED the Lockhard company want to continue to eat up farm land and have cities pay for more roads so he can become even richer and the tax payer becomes poorer..(PLEASE LEAVE THE CV) but when it comes to their back yard? no deal..what hipocrates!!!!!
"
What is the REAL difference? wrote on Mar 22, 2007 10:13 AM:
" Anyone catch the Cedar Falls P&Z commission meeting last night? Ironic how the Cedar Falls P&Z commission will continue to rezone middle class residents' homes that are located on Hill Crest and McClain in Cedar Falls, but when Black Hawk County P&Z steps in and upper class citizens out in Beaver Hills are involved...ABSOLUTELY NOT! "
JD wrote on Mar 22, 2007 10:27 AM:
" Those that suggest that the office would placed in the "middle" of the Beaver Hills residential area would probably tell you that 105 is a number that is in the middle of 0 and 100. The land in question is outside of the residential area and its footprint would be much smaller than what is already used for suburban-style residential development. It might be the case, though, that people in this development have a God-given right not to have any commercial development (other than their country club) near their neighborhood. "
RD wrote on Mar 22, 2007 10:37 AM:
" 30th largest non-bank company? Not even in Chicago are they the 30th largest. Fidelity, Vangaurd, Dimensional Advisors, and most hedge funds are larger. They have a degree of success, and are a desireable company to be sure. The Courier should verify thier information! "
response to d wrote on Mar 22, 2007 10:47 AM:
" d...I would give your comment the time of day...if there was any truth to it. You must have been misimformed as to where the office was going to be built. It is not going to be built in the middle of ANYTHING! Not your neighborhood, not my neighborhood - which by the way is the same neighborhood. I just really want people to know that all of Beaver Hills was and is not against this. I can fully grasp the benefits this will bring to the community as a whole. The boost it will give to the housing market, the malls, the car dealerships, the eating establishments, the entertainment establsihments and the list could go on forever. I also would love to see our kids graduate from college and feel like there are some great opportunities here, and I know there are...but what is wrong with more great opportunities. I love this community and I will never leave...many of us are for growth! I am not ONE bit concerned that I will not be able to see the stars at night, or see the deer in my yard. The numerous houses that already exist and the golf course with many buildings, a pool and lights did not make them go away...why would a very thought out enviro. sound office building? So d...if it was going to be in the middle of our neighborhood, I may feel differently...but that is NOT the issue!! "
DON'T FORGET wrote on Mar 22, 2007 10:52 AM:
" Sign the petition!! Also, this will not be a breaking story for long - and people may have a hard time finding this site..so forward this petetion address on to as many people as you know. Lets get something done here.
Here is the site:
http://www.petitiononline.com/prgincv/petition.html "
Independent wrote on Mar 22, 2007 11:08 AM:
" Yes Russ the Cedar Valley is not for me either. The Cedar Valley suffers from small mans disease. 20 years from now the Cedar Valley will look the same or worse than it does now. "
To RD wrote on Mar 22, 2007 11:16 AM:
" According to "Futures" magazine, in 2006 PFG was the 32nd largest futures brokerage exceeding XpressTrade, Alaron and Iowa Grain. "
It's Not Over wrote on Mar 22, 2007 12:09 PM:
" In addition to the petition, please call the Black Hawk County Board of Supervisors - they have the final say. Call today. "
TO Mommas Boy D Lockard wrote on Mar 22, 2007 12:09 PM:
" Your daddy's company does this EVERYDAY to people. Now that it is in your backyard it is all boo hoo. You got your way, great! I hope the next development you go to do you are met with this response. "
what does it matter wrote on Mar 22, 2007 12:16 PM:
" if pfg is number 100 in the future magazine who cares!
they will bring 30-50 jobs. maybe even more. looks like you have time to look it up. do you work?
"
CJ wrote on Mar 22, 2007 12:33 PM:
" I have been told that the technical committe who reviewed the rezoning application expressed concern about several negative impacts of the development. I was told that there was also concern by the committee that insufficient details had been provided to adequately address those negative impacts. Concerns raised by the committee included traffic, environmental impact, lack of infrastructure, and incompatibility with the county's future land use map and land use policy statement. It sounds to me like the application failed because the application submitted by Wasendorf lacked sufficient information. "
@ Agree!!! wrote on Mar 22, 2007 12:39 PM:
" To be entirely honest this has nothing to do with Lockard (the proper spelling) Companies, it has everything to do with the LANDOWNERS of the Beaver Hills area. The LANDOWNERS of the Beaver Hills neighborhood signed the petiton. So 61, or whatever the number was, LANDOWNERS signed the petiton.
This development is a good idea, but it is just the wrong location.
Lets say that someone wanted to build an office near your house. The place that Wassendorf wanted to put his building is really *not that far* from the residential area. Beaver Hills simply does not have the ability to host such a development. What would this building have done for plumbing? All of the plumbing in Beaver Hills goes to a sceptic tank. I really don't think that they would want to use a sceptic tank.
"
Simply wrote on Mar 22, 2007 12:46 PM:
" Beaver Hills is NOT in Cedar Falls. It is on county ground with as stated by someone before, little services. "
Sign wrote on Mar 22, 2007 12:52 PM:
" www.petitiononline.com/prgincv/petition.html If you are in favor of economic development in Black Hawk County, cut and paste the petition link and sign it. It takes less than a minute. Paste the link into an email message and send it to your friends. "
TF wrote on Mar 22, 2007 12:55 PM:
" Great job Black Hawk County P&Z! You guy's are bunch of "all stars". Boy I hope everyone forgets about this when elections roll around. "
To @ Agree wrote on Mar 22, 2007 1:39 PM:
" While you're spell checking, I thought I should let you know that Wasendorf is the proper spelling. "
So typical wrote on Mar 22, 2007 1:40 PM:
" We all want it in the community, just not in MY backyard - right! That's the way it always is - well guess what folks, it has to be in someones backyard - why not mine, or yours? I can understand why he wanted this type of setting for this business. There are lots of businesses in Cedar Rapids and elsewhere in the same type of enviroment. That's what upscale corporations would like to have. Remember when Rath's closed and Deere's laid off so many workers everyone complained we hadn't diversified enough and let Deere's run the show, but apparently we don't remember that. And once again, Waterloo and Cedar Falls loose out to Cedar Rapids, and we have no one to blame but ourselves. If they built homes out there I imagine the "maps" had to be changed then too! But now that money is there they get to protect their "private enviroment" from the working fool! "
Think ahead wrote on Mar 22, 2007 3:45 PM:
" Wasendorf should be courted by the governor, the mayor, chamber of commerce, and anyone else you can think of. Cedar Falls needs jobs like PFG can provide. Very few people make that kind of money in this local economy. If you want those jobs to go to DesMoines or Cedar Rapids, then that's where they'll go.
It is curious that there is so much opposition to a building where 200 people might work on 22 acres. Gee, I work in a building with 400 people in it on less than 5 acres. WHAT'S THE REAL STORY HERE? "
TO TF wrote on Mar 22, 2007 4:03 PM:
" I hope everyone forgets about this too when the elections roll around. *This Just In From The News Room*.....The P&Z Commission is not an elected body, they are appointed by the Board of Supervisors, who ARE elected! So your comment makes no sense, just like 98% of the comments on this board. "
Cute wrote on Mar 22, 2007 5:21 PM:
" Another Locakard is involved in the topic no. Don't worry nobody is taking your money or oppurtunity to run what is no regarded as a self centered company. I used to have decent views of Lockard companies but that has changed. "
DT CF wrote on Mar 22, 2007 8:47 PM:
" I respect the Mudd family, as they are for this project, and for the good of the Cedar Valley...Ken and Amy why aren't you supporting your community.
Where does a person get ahold of MS. Hall's petition.
If the Gallagher firm was the attornery for Russ, would this had gone through!!! Hum....Ms. Hall what law firm do you work for...the Gallagher firm???? What kind of letter did you write to your neighbors? Scare tactic letter? "
Waterloo wrote on Mar 22, 2007 9:00 PM:
" I am laughing...Amy and Linda, what about the eye sore before you enter into Beaver Hills...how about a petition to get that cleaned up!!! I am all for that!!! "
Butler County wrote on Mar 22, 2007 9:26 PM:
" We'd gladly take them in Butler County. Our taxes are lower too because we don't have to support all the welfare queens and drug addicts like Black Hawk County does. "
JD wrote on Mar 22, 2007 10:32 PM:
" Good news, folks: we are getting a new strip mall at Black Hawk village and a convenience store at Lone Tree Road and 218. These are the kind of amenities we need to bring young professionals back to the Cedar Valley and get the airport buzzing again! "
DR wrote on Mar 22, 2007 11:07 PM:
" OK so it zoned for agriculture. Please farmers surround this neighborhood with multiple hog lots. They deserve it. This is an unbelievable decision for the Cedar Valley. "
go back to town wrote on Mar 23, 2007 7:49 AM:
" Iam so tirered of you people on "the hill" it was such a great idea for you people to invade our privacy when it was in your best interest but now somebody wants to come in and increase land value you people dont give a darn about anyone but yourself. I really wish I had a magic wand to make you all go back to town. You are the biggest bunch of loud mouths I have ever seen. The traffic you gennerated far exceeds what this project will. Oh by the way thank you for feeding my deer all year because the sure taste good in the fall. "
DON'T FORGET wrote on Mar 23, 2007 8:23 AM:
" Don't forget to sign the petition to try and over turn this!! Just copy and paste this and sign! Then forward it on to all your friends and have them do it to!!
http://www.petitiononline.com/prgincv/petition.html "
? wrote on Mar 23, 2007 8:24 AM:
" Did you know that out of the 61 names on the petition there were only 34 households, and that someone traveled up to 2 miles to stuff mailboxes just to get that few of names! "
???? wrote on Mar 23, 2007 8:26 AM:
" You ask why more people in favor of this project did not get up to the podium Tuesday evening. 132 members stepped up to that podium to affirm their decision that this is not only a great thing for Beaver Hills Country Club, but a fabulous opportunity for the Cedar Valley. Unlike your group who stepped up to the podium one at a time to repeat the same sentiments over and over, wasting the time of the Commission and the attendees, we selected Mark Rolinger as our representative to speak and he did so quite eloquently, if I might add. Your time, I am sure would have been better spent watching stars, petting one of our massive overpopulation of deer or enjoying your ½ to 1 million dollar homes and I know that the Commission’s time would have been better spent educating themselves concerning the needs and desire of the people of Black Hawk County. Perhaps they have forgotten that ultimately their goal is to address those needs. "
THEN CALL wrote on Mar 23, 2007 8:26 AM:
" After you sign the petition - don't forget to call and email the people we have entrusted this with..and let them know how you feel! Obivously, this is what it will take!
BH Co. Supervisor contact (319)833-3003 or supervisors@co.black-hawk.ia.us or suite 203 316 E 5th St Waterloo, IA 50703
"
WHY ? wrote on Mar 23, 2007 8:58 AM:
" - To all of those people "rushing to sign a petition" in favor of this development, WHAT ARE THE FACTS that you want the Black Hawk County Supervisors to consider to overrule the P&Z Commission? - I see no facts other than "the proposed development DOES NOT COMPLY with 6 of the 8 zoning requirements" and your proposed facts are that "it would be REALLY NICE for the Cedar Valley". - Do you really think the Black Hawk County Supervisors will overrule this decision if the project clearly "DOES NOT COMPLY" and based only on your claims that is only "REALLY NICE" for the Cedar Valley. - Maybe you should also petition the FAA to keep the third runway at the airport with your facts "that it would be REALLY NICE" if each of the current three flights per day can land on a different runway. - Good Luck ??? "
To Butler County wrote on Mar 23, 2007 9:07 AM:
" Yeah we may have our problems in BH county but that is because we have people. We do not count our hogs and cows in our population. Go back to sitting on your front steps It will be ok you just stick to the simpler things in life and not worry about a thing... "
To Why? wrote on Mar 23, 2007 9:17 AM:
" The petition argues for what is an obviously necessary yet ommitted criterion from the P&Z consideration; i.e., the economic value of the project. If the Board of Supervisors does not overturn the commission, they will be replaced by sensible representatives who favor economic growth. Welcome to a democracy.
http://www.petitiononline.com/prgincv/petition.html
"
Annex Land wrote on Mar 23, 2007 9:37 AM:
" If Waterloo is going to pursue greenfield development LS Power) that has a far greater adverse impact on the environment, perhaps Cedar Falls should annex the area, rezone and make this project happen. I agree with those that say it could be built somewhere else in Black Hawk. Anywhere but Pinnacle Prairie. Lockard's don't have a problem promoting greenfield development and using taxpayer money (TIF's) in promoter their own projects. "
Logic wrote on Mar 23, 2007 9:42 AM:
" Folks, this appears to NOT be a Lockard decision, so much as a "logical" decision. How many of you, if told that a large company was looking to relo from Chicago, would have said..."Beaver Hills would be the perfect location. With its remote location, lack of services, county not city status, etc." Come on...Anyone would have earmarked 100 other locations before Beaver. The fact that this business has decided to push for an a-typical location does not trump the fact that there are serious hurdles to that location. Our P&Z (city or county) is there to weigh the benefits and the hurdles. I think they did their job in this first-run meeting. How many people have to go through P&Z multiple times before getting something approved? The answer: MANY. If you look, I'm sure that Lockard has either been turned down or had to revamp their proposals numerous times before getting them approved. This is the process, and if this company is going to give up that easily and shift focus to Cedar Rapids or anywhere else, what does it say about their long-term commitment to the Cedar Valley anyway? I think they would be a great addition to our economy, but we can't give someone our car in return for four new tires...it would be a bad trade no matter how nice the tires are. See my point? I, along with Lockard (I'm sure), along with all of the residents of Beaver Hills (I'm sure) welcome Russ and his company...now let's find a way to work together to make it truly the BEST project for what I feel is the BEST community. "
Response to: To Why? wrote on March 23, 2007 9:17 AM: wrote on Mar 23, 2007 10:27 AM:
" - You said: "..obviously necessary...criterion...the economic value of the project..". - Again, no facts to support the project. - The Cedar Valley probably also wants the SUMMER OLYMPICS to be held here, because it would be "REALLY NICE", but again what are the facts when there is not adequate infrastructure for the Beaver Hills project. - If you have real facts, I will gladly support your efforts, if not, still with your REALLY NICE "Rose colored glasses" view of the issue since it has no real basis. - Maybe you can get it to the voters with a special election, but you probaby don't vote either. "
To WHY? wrote on Mar 23, 2007 10:32 AM:
" You mentioned that it does not comply with 6 of the 8 requirements for rezoning. Could you tell me what the 8 requirements are? "
Booger wrote on Mar 23, 2007 10:45 AM:
" Please do not continue to write about the great opportunity this project is for Beaver Hills Country Club. That kind of talk will not make the average Black Hawk County citizen petition to overturn. Most of the Beaver Hills Country Club members are just visitors and do not live in the Beaver Hills area. Did anyone consider doing any research to find out the neighbors opinion of the project before it got this far? Can anyone actually give an educated analysis as to how this project will actually impact the county. How many homes will sell, how many extra dollars will be spent in the area each year? How much will this building increase the property tax income to the county? Solid, fact based data will help solve this conflict. Good luck to all. "
Jim Mudd Jr wrote on Mar 23, 2007 10:56 AM:
" This meeting was a tradgedy for the Cedar Valley! My mother, father and the entire Mudd family support this incredable opportunity for the Cedar Valley. Mr Wasendorf is a great man and his built one of the worlds best financial companies! Why would people say no to this? Cedar Valley please call and write the Black Hawk County supervisors! It's a no brainer to this area! "
Hardass wrote on Mar 23, 2007 11:10 AM:
" The P&Z did their job. They are however very negative about growth and the overall development of the Cedar Valley. They feel they are following the policy of the Board of Superviors. The area in question could easily be part of the land use map for this kind of development or for condos etc. It sure isn't good for anything else. It's woods. I'd like to see someone come in and shoot all the deer there. They are like giant rabbits. 500 of them are hit a year in Black Hawk County alone by our vehicles. The P&Z members need to move into the 21st century. They could have supported this develoopment with sufficient conditions on the development to quarantee a "green" facility, but that would require thinking out of the box. Now the Supervisors will have that opportunity to allow a wooded area to be developed with minimal impact to the area and persons in that area. If Beaver Hills wanted to rebuild it's club house with a facilty has being proposed it could do so. There is no real traffic or services issues. The majority of person residing around the area are tucked away back form Union Road and won't notice any changes. The only problem I see the home owners would have is a fear that Cedar Falls will someday want to annex their area and that will raise their taxes. A commercial site will not hurt their taxes but only help the county tax base which might help redue their taxes. Their homes will be easier to sell the the employees coming into town that will want to live close to work. I'm tired of the "I got my bone" but "you can't have one" attitude. Hopefully our "elected" officals will step up to the plat and find a way to get this project done for the benefit of Black Hawk County and the Cedar Valley. Sounds like a win/win situation, and there are no loosers if this development goes through. It might be time for the Board of Supervisors to revisit their policy of development in the county for actual poorer quality farmland or wooded ag land is open for development and find some progressive people to serve on the P&Z and give them more options and tools to work with. If you build a golf course people will come, if people come then business will come, and our children when they graduate from college will have good job opportunities locally. "
no brainer wrote on Mar 23, 2007 11:44 AM:
" In a place like Iowa, especially BH county, we need expansion. With everything costing more and all the young people leaving, whos left to pay the taxes and do the work. I just hope people quit complaining about tax bills and how expensive it is to live here. We get a chance to have a stepping stone to improving our community and the negatives just shoot it down because of reason such as dark skys and a couple more cars- simply ridiculous! "
ChrisP wrote on Mar 23, 2007 12:12 PM:
" Iowa exports more college educated people out of the state than any other state.......And you wonder why. Why doesn't the County Board of Supervisors just build a sign outside of town that reads, "We don't want any business owners moving businesses here, bringing high paying jobs, increasing the tax base and bettering our community". Our community doesn't deserve this especially our kids. "
To Booger wrote on Mar 23, 2007 12:23 PM:
" There was a public meeting held at the CF Public Library to address the neighbors and anybody else that wanted to show up before the P&Z meeting. As far as your other questions go.....I have no clue. "
TwoCents wrote on Mar 23, 2007 1:23 PM:
" I have to agree with "Logic's" earlier blog stating, "if this company is going to give up that easily and shift focus to Cedar Rapids or anywhere else, what does it say about their long-term commitment to the Cedar Valley anyway?" Everyone is quick to criticize and find fault in P&Z and a quote by Amy Lockard (which I find funny that she was singled out by the liberal press) that stated she "didn't think it was the right place for this development - yet she loves the idea". If Russ wanted to locate his company at the NE Waterloo Industrial Park, people would come out and complain that it was in the wrong place. If he wanted to locate in the Cedar Falls Industrial Park people would come out and complain. If they wanted to locate along San Marnan in South Waterloo people would come out and complain. If they wanted to locate in Pinnacle Prairie, people would come out and complain. The problem is that nothing is ever good enough for the citizens of the Cedar Valley. Everyone is quick to judge, but aren't willing to give reasonable solutions. I say, let the chips fall where they may - it'll all work out in the end - it always does! I seem to recall a similar situation when Lowe's wanted to locate in Cedar Falls and residents came out to fight. What happened? They went to Waterloo next to two other home improvement stores. Then it came up again recently with Menards adding another store in North Waterloo. Now people are complaining that Cedar Falls doesn't have a home improvement store. I think people seem to forget that if it wasn't for companies to spur commercial development whether it be offices/industrial or retail, all of our taxes would be a heck of a lot higher. Stop criticizing one another and let's figure out a solution. "
Live in Waterloo wrote on Mar 23, 2007 3:36 PM:
" Did you know the Black Hawk County Board of Supervisors contract the City of Waterloo's Planning & Zoning group!!!!! I sure hope Waterloo is behing this great project. "
No More Trails wrote on Mar 23, 2007 4:10 PM:
" No More Trails wrote on March 14, 2007 9:49 AM prior to the P&Z meeting I said that: "Maybe they want to do business on the Beaver Hills golf course. Will Black Hawk County bend their zoning requirements and agree to pick-up the cost of the required utilities and services required for a project of this magnitude? Will Cedar Falls feel compelled to quickly anex the area in order to access the tax base (and then be responsible for all services)?... Maybethe City of Waterloo will entice them to develop in Waterloo...to build at the VGM site or at the old dog track area...or...donate the South Hills golf course to get them into to Waterloo area...".
Now it seems that if Cedar Falls does annex the area, it probably will cost them somewhere around $10,000,000 or more to provide the services (sewer) and the property taxes of these people who live nearby will have their tax rates (and the proposed building) rasied by 30 or 40% (and they are the ones that can afford it) to cover the infrastructure and services and then it is likely that all property owners in Cedar Falls will also be required to have a 10 or 20% increase in property taxes in order to cover the ongoing costs of services? Based on results, Russ W. is apparently a good businessman and he also knows that the Cedar Valley area is great choice to relocate his business, and surely he personally did not limit his planning to only ONE SITE in the area. "
KB wrote on Mar 23, 2007 4:45 PM:
" Russ, the city of Five Seasons welcomes you and the rest of PFG! "
BJM wrote on Mar 23, 2007 5:55 PM:
" I just heard of the great possible opportunity for the Cedar Rapids area. This successful entrepreneur is not only known in the business world but he is also known for taking care of his workers and their families. His ethics go even further by proof of his contributions to the community and special children's charities. Should Cedar Falls pass up this great opportunity, I certainly hope Mr. Wasendorf does not give up on the great state of Iowa. Cedar Rapids is totally open for people/companies like him! "
No to NIMBY'S wrote on Mar 24, 2007 2:15 AM:
" The NIMBY's have struck again. It seems to me that no matter what the expansion and proposal, there will be people that will oppose it. Cedar Falls has missed out on a golden gem of a proposal because some people that have already either made or inherited their money don't want a business near them. I don't care if the proposal is a Lowe's on Cedar Falls South side, a Coal power plant in Waterloo, Spraying for mosquitos at Sturgis Falls, or this upscale business proposition, people are going to oppose it. I just wonder what (or if there is a) project that would not face any opposition from NIMBY's. I would even speculate that Jesus Christ himmself couold build a church in the Cedar Valley, and NIMBY's would be oppose the amount of traffic. "
? wrote on Mar 24, 2007 8:28 AM:
" I think the county should turn this down and then the city of Cedar Falls can annex the property and Peregrine could build and the nasayers can live with that "
Did you know??? wrote on Mar 24, 2007 8:36 AM:
" Did you know???
The closest objector to this project is 6/10 of a mile away?
Did you know ???
The closest household to the project is Jimm Mudd Sr. and he is for it.
Did you know ???
That of the original 40 HOUSEHOLDS that were sent a letter from p&z that only 5 objected to the project?
More to come!!!! "
To Booger Did you know wrote on Mar 24, 2007 8:41 AM:
" Most the Beaver Hills residents are for this project, otherwise the opposition wouldn't have had to travel 2 to 3 miles down Union road to get signatures on their petition!!!!!! "
Beaver Hills resident wrote on Mar 24, 2007 1:15 PM:
" I live in the Beaver Hills area. The petition was signed by only 34 homeowners. This includes people also on Union Road. If you count all of the homes which are in this area it is well over 100 homes. The majority of the homeowners in this area are in favor of the office building being located on Beaver Hills golf course property. As a business man I also want growth in the Cedar Valley area. "
TO LIVE IN WATERLOO wrote on Mar 24, 2007 3:25 PM:
" Just so you know, the Black Hawk County Supervisors do not contract with the City of Waterloo's Planning & Zoning "group". They contract with the City of Waterloo's Planning & Zoning Department staff to provide planning & zoning services. The Black Hawk County Planning & Zoning Commission is not the same group as the City of Waterloo's Planning & Zoning Commission. They have no affiliation whatsoever. "
DID YOU ALSO KNOW wrote on Mar 24, 2007 5:23 PM:
" FACT;THE OWNER OF THE ROAD LEADING TO THIS PROJECT, IS ALSO THE PERSON PAYING TAXES ON THIS ROAD. DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS PROJECT. "
Live in Waterloo wrote on Mar 24, 2007 8:42 PM:
" Black Hawk county supervisor's office told me to call the City of Waterloo's P&Z because they contract with them to do the work....it was the city of Waterloo's number I had to call!!!
Aric Schroeder, Zoning Administrator
City Hall
2nd Floor
715 Mulberry Street
Waterloo, Iowa 50703
"
LE wrote on Mar 24, 2007 8:47 PM:
" Amy and Linda....after all of these great comments...have you changed your mind yet to support your community or do you want a hog lot near you! "
Good riddance wrote on Mar 25, 2007 7:30 PM:
" Yes, it was nice for the Cedar Valley to be considered for relocation, but the man didn't do his homework very well. Sunday's editorial in the Courier summed up best all the drawbacks with his proposed location. I wish the supporters would read that and understand why the decision to deny the rezoning was made. If he truly wanted to be involved in the Cedar Valley, he would stick around and find a suitable location, even if it's not that "goat's a-- in the CF Industrial Park" (his words, not mine). Speaking of which, a comment like that sounds rather egotistical and not one who's committed to the betterment of the Cedar Valley. I'm sure the businesses that are currently located there love to be referred to as such. One more request for his supporters, instead of begging the rest of the public to petition the supervisors to overturn the P&Z ruling, why don't you petition Wasendorf to check his ego at the door, and reconsider locating elsewhere in the Cedar Valley where he can fit in legally. "
To Good Riddance wrote on Mar 26, 2007 9:02 AM:
" The Industrial Park is so named because it is designed for light industry with easy interstate access. It would be an inappropriate location for a brokerage house. If I owned that business, I would not want to place it amongst all of that corrugated steel. It's the wrong image. "
DON'T FORGET wrote on Mar 26, 2007 9:07 AM:
" SIGN THE PETITION
"http://www.petitiononline.com/prgincv/petition.html " "
To Good Riddance wrote on Mar 26, 2007 9:57 AM:
" You do not get it and you never will!
This building would be the greenest new office bulding in IA.
Mr.Wasendorf wants to build a state-of- the-art building in a beautiful area.
If the Lockard family would make money with the project, the building would be already built!
"
Anne wrote on Mar 26, 2007 12:21 PM:
" I'm not even going to read all the comments here. I cannot believe the narrow-mindedness of people... What a wonderful LOST opportunity for the community. Too bad Waterloo wasn't a choice. I'd welcome this in my back yard any day... "
Good riddance wrote on Mar 26, 2007 12:33 PM:
" I get it, but it seems like the rest of you don't. At one time, the IP was for light industry, but lately it has become a tax haven for all sorts of businesses that are not industry related. I would probably guess that there are only a few industrial businesses there; the rest are technology, school or office based companies. Most of you were either blinded by the fact that his proposal did not meet zoning regulations and would put an unnecessary burden on Cedar Falls services (sewage, garbage, streets, public safety) in an area that isn't zoned for development like that. Or perhaps some of you are blinded by the money you were to make from the sale of the property. Besides, as others have stated, once you allow one company to get an exception to disregard or change the zoning regulations, it opens the door for others to do the same, and if it's not in the Beaver Hills area, it's somewhere else. Other businesses had to meet zoning requirements when they build here, what makes this one so different? I have not heard from one single person that is against him relocating here, just in the appropriate areas. Instead, he's showing his loyalty to the area by going elsewhere because the rules won't be changed for him. As I said, with a mindset like that (inflexible), good riddance. "
CJ wrote on Mar 26, 2007 1:14 PM:
" what people do not know is that this project had no "green" aspect to it. There was no sewer or water structure plans presented and the site is in near a flood plain. Plus existing wells and septic sytems are nearby componding the problem. If Mr. Wasendorf actually presented what P and Z board requested maybe it would have gone through. He should have contacted the DNR prior to even presenting the project to the P and Z board. Good plans encompass the whole project not a small portion. Good riddance to this person anyway. If he does not want to follow regualtions move it to Mexico! "
Coincidence wrote on Mar 26, 2007 1:56 PM:
" Does Lockard use the Gallagher law firm? Is this P&Z commission just a puppet for Lockard and the Gallagher law firm? What a coincidence that Lockard isn't building the project and his wife drums up support against the project and Linda an attorney for Gallagher starts a letter writing campaign and a 61 person petition against the campaign. Is this all just a coincidence? Or is it that the Gallagher law firm that helped the P&Z board get elected is creating a reason to turn down this project so that the only place to get the deal done in town is with Lockard? hmmmmmm...maybe its just a coincidence. "
Public Meeting?? wrote on Mar 26, 2007 2:03 PM:
" What public meeting? Where was the announcement placed for the public meeting? Was it placed in the newspaper? Who set up the public meeting? Was this another one of Linda's smokescreens to get this project rejected? "
To Coincedence wrote on Mar 26, 2007 2:24 PM:
" So, how exactly did the Gallagher Law Firm help the P&Z members get "elected"? First off, the P&Z members are not elected. They are appointed by the Board of Supervisors, who are elected. And Lockard had nothing to do with the request being recommended for denial.I actually dont think anyone on the Commission even knows who Lockard even is. So stop posting your dreamt up theories and unknowledgeable comments on these boards!!!! THANK YOU!! "
To Naysayers wrote on Mar 26, 2007 2:36 PM:
" To all of the naysayers...what are you going to say when the plans get resubmitted to the planning and zoning board with all of the issues addressed? What will be your complaint then? We all know that the issues that were addressed by the commissioners for the P&Z will be addressed when submitted to the supervisors. "
To CJ or is that B & J or Amy and Linda wrote on Mar 26, 2007 2:45 PM:
" Are you still against the deal if the issues raised by the planning and zoning board are addressed? What is your excuse then to stop the deal? Out of the 200 responses to the article most of the people can see through your smoke screen and smear campaign. All but you realize this deal is good for Iowa, Black Hawk County, Cedar Falls, Cedar Valley, Beaver Hills and the Beaver Hills CC. You are against this deal because of your ego. Plain and simple. Let go of your ego and stop interferring with a company bringing jobs and resources to Iowa. "
Coincidence wrote on Mar 26, 2007 2:53 PM:
" Are you saying that the board of supervisors for the planning and zoning commission is not elected? Or are you saying that the Lockard does not use the Gallagher law firm? Or are you saying that Linda and Amy were not working together to stop this project? Or are you saying that Amy Lockard does not know Linda Hall who put together the petition of 61 houses against the building? Or are you just saying that was a coincidence? That's okay. You can say it was a coincidence. I'm just curious. What part is not true? "
Coincidence wrote on Mar 26, 2007 3:07 PM:
" HAAA!! Are you really trying to assert that P&Z commission does not know Lockard? That's a good one. LOL Are you next going to say that Amy Lockard does not know her husband? LOL. I was just pointing out a coincidence. Boy did it strike a nerve. Just say that it isn't true or what part isn't true and enough said. Wow... "
To Coincedence wrote on Mar 26, 2007 4:17 PM:
" Yes, that is exactly what I was saying...THE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS!!! What part of that don't you understand?? There was one Board of Supervisor at the Planning & Zoning Commission meeting (John Miller), who IS elected, but the actual commission is made up of volunteers who donate their time to serve Black Hawk County. Mr Miller had no voting rights or anything at that meeting...he was just there to listen. And I wasnt saying that they may not have heard of Lockard and his business, but I doubt the commission members know his family personally. And I dont know or care if Lockard uses Gallagher Law Firm. And on a final note, the petition of opposition is not what got the request denied, like you are so adamately saying. It was the land use policies of Black Hawk County and the fact that the request barely met any of them had more to do with it. So you can stop posting your conspiracy theories on these boards. "
Entertained but supporting an approval wrote on Mar 26, 2007 6:38 PM:
" Re the exchanges between Coincidence and the responder, first statement was "I actually don't think anyone on the Commission even knows who Lockard even is." My thought was it would be scary indeed if our P&Z didn't know who the Lockards are in this community!! Then the clarification "And I wasn't saying that they may not have heard of Lockard and his business, but I doubt the commission members know his family personally." First statement surely didn't read like that. Thus responders credibility is a little weak, or he/she should proofread their responses. The other comment from a CJ that "what people do not know is that this project had no "green" aspect to it." Geothermal has not green aspect? Saving all possible natural habitat isn't green? Designing a building that blends with the natural landscape isn't "green"? Credibility of this responder went to zero over that declaration even though the clarification comments about P&Z not being elected were good. People are just a little too emotional. Lets settle down and let this play out for what's finally best in the BIG picture for BHC.
"
To CJ & Good riddance wrote on Mar 26, 2007 7:41 PM:
" "If he does not want to follow regualtions move it to Mexico!" & "why don't you petition Wasendorf to check his ego at the door" are comments that I don't understand. These two comments alone show that you are not willing to work for the better of the community nor are you willing to work towards a compromise that might work out better for you. There are millions of Americans worried every day that their company will move production overseas and then they in turn will lose their jobs. Our capability in the US of competing with overseas/cross-boarder wages is becoming increasingly difficult. Here's a man, from the community, who wants to give back in a way that he thinks would be beneficial. You may not agree but that's ok - work towards progress and compromise. To insult someone's ego in person, anonymously or online does no one any good. It is ok to disagree with one another but things will only get resolved if the opinions/arguments are constructive. What don't you like about the plan? What do you like about the plan? Could the plans be changed to accommodate some of your specific requests? What can you offer as a solution? Do you have an alternative place to suggest that is like Beaver Hills or are you only suggesting the industrial park? Citizens working together = strong communities. Let's try it! "
Live in Waterloo wrote on Mar 26, 2007 8:55 PM:
" It should be what is the best interest for the Cedar Valley...not Beaver Hills Country Club.
The best interest for the Cedar Valley is the great jobs and all the money this company would bring into the Cedar Valley...purchase cars, eat in resturants, support UNI activities, support UNITED WAY.....do I need to say anything more!!! "
Polk County Resident wrote on Mar 26, 2007 9:13 PM:
" Hall said she feared urban sprawl ! Do they realize that the ground their home was built on used to be a corn field ? I used to hunt that corn field. When I returned home to visit my parents. WOW to my surprise URBAN SPRAWL had moved into the area. Where was that petition ? I moved from Black Hawk County due to low paying jobs and now live in Polk County. I visit my parents who still live in the Beaver Hills area. ( NOT ON THE HILL ) They support this building as do I. "
AD wrote on Mar 26, 2007 9:46 PM:
" I heard it was a group of doctors and two lawyers on the no petition. Linda Hall and what other lawyer? Someone else from Gallagher's firm? "
Courier reader wrote on Mar 26, 2007 9:55 PM:
" Did you read the Courier tonight ---Sales of new homes fell sharply for a second consecutive month in February, a weaker-than-expected performance that dimmed hopes for a rebound in the troubled housing market. What are the realtors in the Cedar Valley saying about this project???? Have they are all (including the Lockard realtors)signed the petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/prgincv/petition.html
"
Frmr CF/Wloo resident wrote on Mar 26, 2007 11:01 PM:
" Wow. If I remember correctly, the same thing happened once upon a time in Waterloo around the Sunnyside Country Club area with respect to expansion/building on the south side of San Marnan. Apparently, the snobs found new digs (and I can say 'snobs' because I actually lived on the Sunnyside course back then). "
Farmer Boy wrote on Mar 26, 2007 11:28 PM:
" There's still time for the board of supervisors to over-turn this P&Z decision and let a great man do great things for the Cedar Valley.
If they don't, here's hoping that Wasendorf surrounds Beaver Hills with hog confinement buildings that the P&Z has no jurisdiction over.
Is it any wonder that Black Hawk County is losing population? The ant-growth people win again! "
to lives in waterloo wrote on Mar 27, 2007 3:51 AM:
" to clrify-the beaver hills CO club overwhemingly approved the sale of the land 138-12. it is the neighbors that don't want it, the club does. "
todd wrote on Mar 27, 2007 4:06 AM:
" call your county supervisors about this. I have, and they are listening. "
Entertained but supporting an approval wrote on Mar 27, 2007 9:36 AM:
" Re the exchanges between Coincidence and the responder, first statement was "I actually don't think anyone on the Commission even knows who Lockard even is." My thought was it would be scary indeed if our P&Z didn't know who the Lockards are in this community!! Then the clarification "And I wasn't saying that they may not have heard of Lockard and his business, but I doubt the commission members know his family personally." First statement surely didn't read like that. Thus responders credibility is a little weak, or he/she should proofread their responses. The other comment from a CJ that "what people do not know is that this project had no "green" aspect to it." Geothermal has not green aspect? Saving all possible natural habitat isn't green? Designing a building that blends with the natural landscape isn't "green"? Credibility of this responder went to zero over that declaration even though the clarification comments about P&Z not being elected were good. People are just a little too emotional. Lets settle down and let this play out for what's finally best in the BIG picture for BHC.
"
shirley wrote on Mar 27, 2007 10:52 AM:
" i think that the main problem is that people dont like change. change is different and people dont like different. but i think after it is all done people will start to like it. it just takes time to adjust to change. "
Independent wrote on Mar 27, 2007 10:56 AM:
" One man building an office isn't going too put Blackhawk County on the map. Good job Beaver Hills!!! Stay in Chicago Russ, we don't need you or your building in the Cedar Valley! I'll bet Russ thought the red carpet was going to roll out for him and when it didn't he got mad. Have fun in Cedar Rapids I'm sure you and your employees will get used too the smell after a few weeks. That town is going down so fast their economy can't even support two malls anymore, so I'm positive you will be able to get whatever you need from city officials in Cedar Rapids. "
Entertained but supporting an approval wrote on Mar 27, 2007 3:16 PM:
" Re the exchanges between Coincidence and the responder, first statement was "I actually don't think anyone on the Commission even knows who Lockard even is." My thought was it would be scary indeed if our P&Z didn't know who the Lockards are in this community!! Then the clarification "And I wasn't saying that they may not have heard of Lockard and his business, but I doubt the commission members know his family personally." First statement surely didn't read like that. Thus responders credibility is a little weak, or he/she should proofread their responses. The other comment from a CJ that "what people do not know is that this project had no "green" aspect to it." Geothermal has not green aspect? Saving all possible natural habitat isn't green? Designing a building that blends with the natural landscape isn't "green"? Credibility of this responder went to zero over that declaration even though the clarification comments about P&Z not being elected were good. People are just a little too emotional. Lets settle down and let this play out for what's finally best in the BIG picture for BHC.
"
Good question!! wrote on Mar 27, 2007 3:32 PM:
" This morning there were over 100 comments on this response posting, now only 3 newer ones appear. Very strange. WHY? I'm wintering out of state and have been regularly reviewing this building firestorm with well over 90% of comments supporting the project. I'm also monitoring the growing support petition now up to 558 names at this moment 3/27 3:30 PM. Just received the hardcopy of the 3/21 Courier with it's headline using Urban Sprawl as the objectors concern. Only the final sentence & quote even mentions that, and it's from one single person who's built on former Agricultural land in the epitome of Urban Sprawl - the Beaver Hills residential development 2 miles from town, and the main generator of "heavy traffic" on Union Rd!! Interesting perspectives abound. "
Proper Use wrote on Mar 27, 2007 3:41 PM:
" I suspect the sheer number of comments posted needed to be parsed out, that's why they are gone.
On a personal note I too was dismayed and dissapointed once again by county/city leaders for having no vision on economic development.
However, some of the comments back and forth did get a little carried away. Hopefully this forum won't be discontinued if people can't be civic and professional in using the this forum. "
To Independent wrote on Mar 27, 2007 3:50 PM:
" One man building an office isn't going to put BHC on the map. However one man building an office with a design and concept as spectacular this one will put BHC on the map. You mention CR not being able to support two malls, have you been to the nearly vacant College Square Mall lately? By the way, Russ already lives in the Cedar Valley and employs about 35 employees here which I'm sure he will continue to employ regardless of the outcome. It's people like yourself that find fault in every project that comes to the area. "
to independant wrote on Mar 27, 2007 3:51 PM:
" Congrads on sounding like a simple minded fool. Progress, that would be you leaving town and let forward thinking people take your place....now thats progress. "
????? wrote on Mar 27, 2007 4:05 PM:
" Comments all gone I guess somebody had some connections somewhere????? "
AB wrote on Mar 27, 2007 4:50 PM:
" The petition in favor of rezoning will be printed and sent to BHC Supervisors at the end of this week. Sign here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/prgincv/petition.html "
Editor wrote on Mar 27, 2007 5:02 PM:
" Technical difficulties caused previously posted comments to disappear temporarily. We are sorry for the inconvenience. "
Coincidence wrote on Mar 27, 2007 5:19 PM:
" See Linda it really is semantics. I'm saying the board of SUPERVISORS was elected. I assumed that they picked the commissioners. Maybe I'm wrong. So anyway the question was that if Gallagher helped Board of supervisors with their strong political connections get elected? and then Lockard used Gallagher the law firm? through one of their hotshot attorneys? that happen to live in Beaver Hills to put together a petition to stop the building being built on a non Lockard development then it would be awfully coincidental. Fortunately though Linda, you pointed out that the planning and zoning commission does not know Lockard. Either way you pointed out that it wasn't true. Thank you so much for your insight. "
CF wrote on Mar 27, 2007 9:03 PM:
" Could someone please state date and time when the Board of Supervisor meeting will be held?
"
Think about it wrote on Mar 27, 2007 9:07 PM:
" If $10MM investment in a class A office building with > 75 new jobs located in a rural setting sets a zoning precedent - so be it - we can only hope to be flooded with these opportunities. "
Courier editors wrote on Mar 28, 2007 5:54 AM:
" Due to a technical glitch Tuesday, some of the postings disappeared, but the problem was resolved and all have been restored. Thanks for your patience during this problem. "
So what wrote on Mar 28, 2007 7:41 AM:
" It doesn't sound like this proposal would've created very many new jobs for people in the area, if any at all. I'm sure the Chicago employees are happy about this decision. Who would want to be forced to move here from Chicago just to keep a job? I'd be more concerned about Deere moving their operations overseas than about losing this guy's development plans. "
none wrote on Mar 28, 2007 8:59 AM:
" I'm surprised Super Russ wants to leave his Super Chicago joint to be with us simple folk here. "
To none wrote on Mar 28, 2007 10:27 AM:
" You're comment makes absolutely no sense. I no way has Russ stated anything to the effect that people here are "simple". Russ lives and owns a home here in CF, so based on your comment wouldn't that make him simple too?
"
Reader wrote on Mar 28, 2007 1:19 PM:
" I am just amazed at the Couriers lack of knowledge about the Perigrine project at Beaver Hills. The editorial should be rescinded from Sundays paper. Who wrote this? What do you know about the new septic systems, have you ever seen the location. Rural water is 2 blocks away. This community should be embarassed at the lack of ingenuity and creativity of it's leaders in failing to work through any barriers to get this project completed and the Courier is encouraging them. "
To NONE wrote on Mar 28, 2007 3:41 PM:
" Russ probably wants to relocate to the Cedar Valley, because he was born and raised in Iowa, is a graduate of UNI and owns a home here....Russ already lives here! "
Come to Central Iowa wrote on Mar 28, 2007 7:10 PM:
" Russ: The greater Des Moines area would welcome the addition of your company to central Iowa. Unlike BHC, they would see your business as a valuable addition to the community and would welcome you with open arms! "
Living in Waterloo wrote on Mar 29, 2007 6:08 AM:
" When is the County Board of Supervisors meeting? Can't wait to meet Amy Lockard. "
To Living in Waterloo wrote on Mar 29, 2007 9:29 AM:
" I am not sure if a date has been set for your County Supervisors meeting yet. Should be sometime in April. "
todd wrote on Mar 29, 2007 9:49 AM:
" to none--sounds like the only simple folk around here is you. "
Curious wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:50 AM:
" Who is Linda?
A total Beaver Hills wanna bee. If you knew her you would know. "
Typical wrote on Mar 29, 2007 11:31 AM:
" Wondering when the Supervisor meeting is going to be. Anyone know? Please post and let us know. I cannot believe that we still have people who are not on board with this project. We need to welcome this company back to the Cedar Valley!!! "
good project/bad location wrote on Mar 29, 2007 12:50 PM:
" i can understand why the p & z voted the way the did. i don't really care what the neibhors have to say as their subdivision is having more of an impact on the environment than this project would, but i do agree that the proposed location probably isn't the best location for a office building. this is for a number of reasons, traffic really isn't one of them, but i don't think others would forsee this being commercial property. i think there are plenty of suitable locations within cedar valley that are avaialable. i understand why they chose that location, however they had to have known it was a risk as it clearly wasn't inline with what the county or city of cedar falls envisioned for that property.
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Unbelievable! wrote on Mar 29, 2007 2:44 PM:
" Unbelievable!:"I have lived in Black Hawk County for over 50 years and I cannot remember a more destructive decision ever being made by an appointed board related to economic development. To think that a few neighbors and 61 name on a petition could negatively impact our county for years to come is devestating. Why should any outside company ever consider trying to locate quality jobs in our county ever again? Here we had an owner ready to exceed every building and land development standard, bring some of the most lucrative jobs we have ever seen, and yet four members of the County P&Z could not see past their maps and the knee jerk reaction from a few neighbors astounds me. I question the point of even having a County P&Z commission. If they are so inflexible that they cannot make adjustment to a zoning and long range map and understand that none of the objections raised are unsurmountable for such a quality deveopment is short sighted. The County Board of Supervisors has a responsibility to find thoughtful and creative minded people for their commission. It is time to review the current members and make a change. Unfortunately, it is to little to late for this project. "
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Hardass wrote on Mar 29, 2007 2:46 PM:
" The P&Z did their job. They are however very negative about growth and the overall development of the Cedar Valley. They feel they are following the policy of the Board of Superviors. The area in question could easily be part of the land use map for this kind of development or for condos etc. It sure isn't good for anything else. It's woods. I'd like to see someone come in and shoot all the deer there. They are like giant rabbits. 500 of them are hit a year in Black Hawk County alone by our vehicles. The P&Z members need to move into the 21st century. They could have supported this develoopment with sufficient conditions on the development to quarantee a "green" facility, but that would require thinking out of the box. Now the Supervisors will have that opportunity to allow a wooded area to be developed with minimal impact to the area and persons in that area. If Beaver Hills wanted to rebuild it's club house with a facilty has being proposed it could do so. There is no real traffic or services issues. The majority of person residing around the area are tucked away back form Union Road and won't notice any changes. The only problem I see the home owners would have is a fear that Cedar Falls will someday want to annex their area and that will raise their taxes. A commercial site will not hurt their taxes but only help the county tax base which might help redue their taxes. Their homes will be easier to sell the the employees coming into town that will want to live close to work. I'm tired of the "I got my bone" but "you can't have one" attitude. Hopefully our "elected" officals will step up to the plat and find a way to get this project done for the benefit of Black Hawk County and the Cedar Valley. Sounds like a win/win situation, and there are no loosers if this development goes through. It might be time for the Board of Supervisors to revisit their policy of development in the county for actual poorer quality farmland or wooded ag land is open for development and find some progressive people to serve on the P&Z and give them more options and tools to work with. If you build a golf course people will come, if people come then business will come, and our children when they graduate from college will have good job opportunities locally." "
DON'T FORGET wrote on Mar 29, 2007 3:36 PM:
" SIGN THE PETITION!!!!!
"http://www.petitiononline.com/prgincv/petition.html "
Up and Coming wrote on Mar 29, 2007 4:39 PM:
" What is up with the right project wrong sight people? I suppose another cookie cutter office building is what they are looking for. Sounds like Peregrine is trying to be on the cutting edge of business buildings and taking care of employees. What a jewel for the community to show case to the rest of Iowa and the nation. It is the kind of growth that we want in the Cedar Vally. Support the building of this project and sign the petition. Look what we did for Target. Why is Peregrine (a home town product) not able to get the same welcome. Just because of the building site? Come on folks let's welcome Peregrine to the Cedar Valley. The Target building took a lot more prime farm acres than what Peregrine is proposing. "
Wow wrote on Mar 29, 2007 7:31 PM:
" What a backwards decision. This doesn't pass the smell test at all. Someone (like the Courier) needs to dig into the council members' affiliations and see what exactly was going on here, because there is no way reasonable people who care about the Cedar Valley would vote no on this project.
There are already 1500 people driving that road every day, and the residents are going to complain about 180 more cars going by per day?
What a waste. What a perfect opportunity destroyed by crooked politicians with buddies in those neighborhoods. "
Barb Simons wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:03 PM:
" This is the kind of growth that most communities would give their eye teeth for. He will bw building into the hillside, with most of it not visable to drivers going by. The land out there is junk for anything else. I think this is a great opportunity slipping away from us for a few signitures. What about the rest of us taxpayers that want to have a say in this. "
on-line reader wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:15 PM:
" I used to live in CF. Great community. What it always lacked was companies such as P&Z. CF residents can do whatever it takes to get this company to locate there, or they can sit back, scratch their heads and wonder why young educated people leave in droves. Your choice. "
Mr. Smith wrote on Mar 31, 2007 7:11 AM:
" The mall needs tenants. Less expensive, more room, already has a resteraunt, c-store and day care in close proximity for employees. It even has a tattoo shop. What more could you want. Or how about the INDUSTIAL PARK!!! It has all the above mentioned amenities and is actually where office and insutrial buildings are suppose to be built. "
on-line reader wrote on Mar 31, 2007 1:38 PM:
" to Mr. Smith: If you don't think outside the box, your community will end up being just like the Waterloo/Cedar Falls community. Oh, never mind, you're already there. "
Good riddance wrote on Mar 31, 2007 4:37 PM:
" Wake up people. Russ Wasendorf is a pompous you know what. He thought could come in here, wave a bunch of money around, and get whatever he wanted. Putting a business in that spot is about the dumbest idea I've heard of in a while. There are plenty of excellent places to develop in Cedar Falls. Anybody ever here of Pinnacle Praire? Fortunately, the zoning committee wasn't blinded by dollar signs, and did their job. "
Read the letters to editors wrote on Apr 1, 2007 7:26 AM:
" Great job
DOUG NICKERSON
CEDAR FALLS --- I live in the Beaver Hills area, and I am in favor of the Peregrine project. When a neighbor stopped and asked for my signature on a petition against the development, I politely said I was in favor of the project. I was in favor of the jobs and overall positive economic impact to the community. I also was excited that the project was green. I then listened to my neighbor warn me that if the project went forward our property taxes would triple (not true), we would all have to put city water, sewer and sidewalks in at our own expense ($25,000), because "it is not a matter of if we will be annexed, but when."
I read in your paper that residents of the area balked at the project. Yes, some residents have balked. Not all, possibly not even the majority. In the division the petition leader lives, the count was 13 in favo and eight against.
"
Read the letters to the editor wrote on Apr 1, 2007 7:28 AM:
" GREG TAGTOW
WATERLOO --- I cannot believe that the county planning and zoning commission would vote to deprive the entire Cedar Valley the privilege of being home to the Peregrine Financial Group home office.
This fine business would have been a jewel in the crown of the Cedar Falls business climate. It would bring high-quality, high-paying jobs and a state of the art eco-friendly building, the likes of which is not seen in Iowa.
Instead of improving the tax base, bringing in 70 new taxpaying residents and helping put Cedar Falls on the international map, we shove them down the road. From what I have read in this paper and heard about the meeting, the angry mob mentality stifled most sane discussion and a good number of falsehoods were told.
I hope this opportunity has not completely passed us by and that the board of supervisors will step in and do what is right for the entire county, not just what a few citizens thinks is right for them.
"
Read the letters to editor wrote on Apr 1, 2007 7:29 AM:
" DREW THOMAS
CEDAR FALLS --- The brain drain in Iowa and other rural, traditionally agriculturally dependent states is well-documented. As a graduate of an Iowa public high school and Iowa public university, I further contributed to the brain drain in pursuit of investment banking and private equity in Minneapolis.
It is companies like Peregrine Financial Group that the state of Iowa and the Cedar Valley should strive to bring to the area. Iowa graduates continue to leave the state in alarming numbers in search of employment by multinational firms like PFG. For many Iowa graduates, it isn't the desire to leave the state, but the search for a career with potential substantial advancement and growth opportunities that ultimately drives relocation to larger metropolitan areas.
Unfortunately, the Black Hawk Planning and Zoning Commission met on March 20 and voted to deny Iowa native and PFG CEO Russ Wasendorf's proposal to move the company headquarters from Chicago's financial district to the Cedar Valley, specifically, the Beaver Hills area. The community should rally around Mr. Wasendorf and his proposal.
Let's do everything we can to keep the educated young professionals Iowa families and communities have worked so hard to raise in Iowa. PFG certainly would be a tremendously positive addition to the area and would be a start to plugging the brain drain plaguing our state.
"
I get it now wrote on Apr 1, 2007 11:55 AM:
" Now I understand why Amy Lockard is so againt the Beaver Hills location, she wants Peregrine Financial Group to build at her husband's location. So this has nothing to do with being a Beaver Hill's neighbor?
Further west, Lockard is planning a seven-building business condo complex as part of its Pinnacle Prairie project on the south side of Greenhill near South Main Street. That complex would be part of the "Business Center North" complex of Pinnacle Prairie, near Lockard's new office building there.
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Ag land wrote on Apr 1, 2007 3:01 PM:
" How much precious ag land has Lockard taken out, this project does not take out any farmable property at all and fits just as well with Beaver Hills as do 70 homes dumping their own septic in their own well water! Did they fight John Deere when they put up the building at the experimental farm? Did it have water or sewer? Does it now?
Cmon supervisors, this is the future!! "
Phil O. Sophy wrote on Apr 2, 2007 9:22 AM:
" Obviously "Mr. Smith" has never heard the phrase "Quality of life" before. "
To Linda wrote on Apr 2, 2007 11:20 AM:
" Linda Hall why did you put together a petition based on a letter campaign of misrepresentations, inuendo and untruths? 40 some houses with 61 total signatures compared to almost 700 positive online petition signatures. Scare tactics and fabrications, is this what it means to be an attorney today? How are you allowed to be an attorney in the great state of Iowa? "
Super MAJORITY wrote on Apr 2, 2007 11:39 AM:
" Over 10 times the amount of petition signatures in favor of project! Now that is a SUPER majority. What does it take for the taxpayers and voters to turn a wrong into a right? Sign the petition and get your voice heard!! http://www.petitiononline.com/prgincv/petition.html" "
Supporter wrote on Apr 2, 2007 3:05 PM:
" Please sign the petition online!!!! Let those supervisors know that we are not happy about the decision by the P&Z!!!! I cannot believe that they turned down this project.
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Question wrote on Apr 2, 2007 7:32 PM:
" Is it possible the neighbors could rescind their petition? "
Living in Waterloo wrote on Apr 2, 2007 7:33 PM:
" Why are so many doctors on the Linda Hall petition? "
shirley wrote on Apr 3, 2007 10:50 AM:
" i really dont mind where it is built at but i think he should build somewhere here in waterloo. bring in more jobs! "
Supervisors Meeting wrote on Apr 3, 2007 12:16 PM:
" I have heard from various sources that the Supervisors meeting will be held on April 24th, but have yet to confirm this. Can anyone confirm? "
Phil O. Sophy wrote on Apr 3, 2007 12:44 PM:
" To Mr. Smith: The quality of life for his employees. You have to admit that it's not very often that an employer of this size actually cares enough about his employees to build an 8 million dollar office for the sole purpose of bettering their quality of life. "
Answer For Question wrote on Apr 3, 2007 12:54 PM:
" Yes, the neighbors could rescind their petition, but what good would that do? The P&Z Commission denied it for other reasons, not just because they got a petition with 61 signaures on it. It had more to do with land use and compatibility, services, etc. "
Answer for Answer wrote on Apr 3, 2007 3:36 PM:
" P&Z denied recommending the proposal due to an exhaggerated interpretation of the zoning directive. Planning and Zoning commissions are supposed to take into account the big picture. In this case they stretched the interpretation of the rules in order to reject the proposal due to pressure they received from the minority. That is why there is a board of supervisors who are voted into the position because they take into account what is best for the community. They will overturn this decision. The support they see for the project is too great to ignore. If they don't overturn this decision then they know they will not get voted in during the next election. All they have to do is look at the online petition and see the support for this proposal. http://www.petitiononline.com/prgincv/petition.html "
Don’t lump us all in with the Beaver Hills hypocrites and morons! wrote on Apr 4, 2007 11:21 AM:
" Let me say up front that I live in the Beaver Hills area and am in favor of Russ Wasendorf’s plan. I attended the neighborhood meeting at the Cedar Falls Library and received the mailings from Linda Hall. I’d like to address some of the “concerns” expressed by a minority of my neighbors. Speeding cars – if you’re worried about your young children riding bikes, they don’t belong on the road leading to the club house. Even without the Wasendorf project there are plenty of cars coming to and going from the club. Wildlife population – if the multitude of homes that have been built in this area didn’t run off the wildlife, one building isn’t going to send them fleeing! Also, someone at our meeting claimed concern for birds that would run into this building. The reflective glass would actually cause the birds to swerve away. You don’t see birds having in-air collisions for this same reason. Light pollution – are you even serious about that?! We have the country club with their lighted lot and that doesn’t prevent us from seeing the stars. Industrial Park/Pinnacle Prairie – Russ has made it clear he wants a serene setting for his employees and isn’t interested in any other location in the Cedar Valley. His building would barely be visible and would provide the tranquil environment he is seeking. Environmental concerns – this eco-friendly green building is so innovative there are only two or three other such buildings in the state of Iowa. Misinformation/scare tactics – having received Linda Hall’s mailings, I can assure you she was knowingly using misinformation and scare tactics to get people to sign the petition. If you are in favor of this project, make your voice heard through the on-line petition and attend the Black Hawk County Supervisors meeting on Tuesday, April 24 at 9 a.m. I think it will be held at the County Courthouse but will write an update if I found out otherwise. "
Drawback to petition wrote on Apr 4, 2007 11:56 AM:
" The petition has no verification process. How many signatures are duplicates? How many are from family members not even old enough to vote? How many are from people not even in the area? How many are fake names with fake (or newly created) email addresses. I understand that there is a desire from some in the community to bring this company here, but to brag about the online petition signatures and to state the petition reflects the entire community is a fallacy. There is a formal and official way to do a petition, and it requires signatures and legwork. "
Russ WINS! wrote on Apr 4, 2007 12:37 PM:
" FYI - I just received info that Russ's plan will be given the OK! At the next meeting it is a DONE DEAL, Russ gets the OK. MARK MY WORDS! I KNOW! "
Russ WINS! is right wrote on Apr 4, 2007 1:19 PM:
" This is poorly kept secret. Word around town has it that his plan will get the OK to build. Now the bigger question is will he? Or will he stay to his word by looking elsewhere since he got rejected the first time? "
Russ Cries! wrote on Apr 4, 2007 1:47 PM:
" I figure he will cry like a little baby that didn't get his way and go pout about it somewhere. This is a prime example of the rich thinking they can do as they darn well please. Nobody kissed his rear so he is going elsewhere. "
Orly wrote on Apr 4, 2007 2:33 PM:
" TO Russ Wins: There is absolutely no way that you could know the future outcome of this. The matter has to be passed by Super Majority at the Board of Supervisors meeting. So unless you are best friends with EVERY member on the board I have a hard time believing your claim. "
To Russ Wins wrote on Apr 4, 2007 3:20 PM:
" How are you privy to the information that the Supervisors are going to vote to rezone? Let us all in on the secret and tell us HOW you know this! "
TO DRAWBACK To PETITION wrote on Apr 4, 2007 3:27 PM:
" You are correct. I have noticed that there are a few duplicate names...probably a result of someone hitting submit twice and I am sure there are a few people that don't live in Black Hawk County who have signed it as well. However, I recognize MANY of the names on the petition as being prominent, well known members of our community. All of my family and friends in the area have signed the petition as well friends of friends. Long story short, even if only half of the names on the petition are legit, that is still an overwhelmingly positive response to an online petition that was only published on this blog under this article. That means that those who have read and blogged feel strongly about this subject and have gotten the word out to their family and friends! "
Welcome wrote on Apr 4, 2007 5:08 PM:
" We should welcome a business like this with open arms. If Waterloo can approve a coal plant as a means to stimulate their stagnant economy why can't CF approve a financial services business. This area needs a boost to it's economy! Bad roads, schools with budget cuts, etc. It's all been in the news lately. Wake up BHC P&Z! "
In The Know wrote on Apr 4, 2007 5:58 PM:
" I cannont and will not tell you how I know..BUT you remeber what I have said and you will see shortly. Russ has been told point blank, itis a DONE deal, it WILL pass and it is a green light. "
Question wrote on Apr 4, 2007 8:39 PM:
" Is it true Linda Hall has changed her mind and is for the project? "
Living in Waterloo wrote on Apr 4, 2007 8:43 PM:
" Why wouldn't a county board of supervisor be for this project? "
Answer wrote on Apr 4, 2007 10:45 PM:
" Linda...can you answer the question...have you changed your mind and are you now supporting progress for the Cedar Valley? "
For the petition wrote on Apr 4, 2007 10:51 PM:
" If duplicates names, it is an accident. To someone wondering about ages on petition, they all look > 18 years old...if some are from outside the Cedar Valley, this is not a vote....it is a petition and they probably had to move away because of no jobs in the Cedar Valley!!! Any smart supervisors would look at the names and recognize they are legal names who can and will vote in the next general election. "
Petition wrote on Apr 4, 2007 10:54 PM:
" Did you see Coach Mitchell and Coach Jacobson are supporting the petition. They are for their students/players finding good jobs in the Cedar Valley. Thank you for signing and supporting your students. "
to Russ wrote on Apr 5, 2007 1:05 PM:
" I hope you get to read this:
I do not live in W'loo or CF anymore due to the poor economic climate. I would love to work for an outstanding company such as yours, however I do not have the training required. I do know though that a great company such as yours will draw others, which will benefit many people in the entire area.
Don't let the shellbacks get you down. They will always be against something no matter what.
Good luck on your zoning!
Mark "
To For the Petition wrote on Apr 5, 2007 5:09 PM:
" As it's been stated earlier, a legitimate petition requires real signatures and legwork. Not electronic signatures. It must be nice to be able to look at a name and know that a person is over the age of 18. This online petition serves only to provide warm fuzzies. Other than that, any government organization that recognizes this petition should all be removed from office. There is no verification that the people posting their names on there are who they say they are. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few presidential candidates names on there to provide "authenticity" to cause. If you people are that sincere about trying to sway the public or board of supervisors, get away from the computers, off your butts and start knocking on doors. But please, stop waving the "Look at the online petition" banners. "
Petition Okay wrote on Apr 5, 2007 10:23 PM:
" Hey...this petition for yes for the Cedar Valley is for real, if you don't think so, call all the people on the list. They are for progress, not like those on the "NO" petition. Maybe those saying "No" were attending the Dr's parties. "
Petition, legal or not wrote on Apr 5, 2007 10:57 PM:
" Totally "legal" petition or not, it has to be very hard for the whole P&Z Commission, and the 5 BHC Supervisors to IGNORE the 825 names, many being very recognizable in the community, including numerous supportive comments on the electronic petition. It's at least worthy information. It's the first such I've ever responded to, partly because it appears to at least carry some legitimate weight in pure mass. By requiring an email "signature" via an established website conduit, there is an audit trail of sorts if need be. With the now 287 comments in response to this article, with an overwhelming majority strongly supportive of the project and a rezoning to facilitate it, it also has to be worthy input. I think the NIMBYs may lose this game yet. Sure do hope so. "
Wondering wrote on Apr 9, 2007 10:23 AM:
" How does the petition get to the Supervisors? Will they look at it? Would something like that hold weight with them? I would hope so!!! "
hope wrote on Apr 9, 2007 11:59 AM:
" meeting? when? what time? I hope at least half of the 900 people signed the petition will be at the meeting "
Serious Question to "In The Know" wrote on Apr 9, 2007 1:14 PM:
" To "In The Know", where did you exactly get your information regarding the forthcoming "approval" of this project? The reason I ask this is because if any of the Supervisors stated how they would vote, it is ILLEGAL! That is called Ex Parte Communications, and if any of the Supervisors gave this project a "green light" prior to the hearing (which hasn't been held yet), then that would be considered ex parte communications and could jeopardize the entire development, not to mention illegal. This is a very serious claim that you are making, one of which could have some serious consequences, so I would think long and hard as to where you got your "information". "
In THe Know wrote on Apr 9, 2007 2:11 PM:
" Ask around..it is common knowledge. If you have friends at the court house, ask. Just believe me when I tell you, this WILL go through. Call me a psychick. "
what's the deal? wrote on Apr 9, 2007 3:26 PM:
" I've worked many years in Black Hawk county, and many years in Cedar Rapids prior to that. I still can't get over the differece between the two areas; CR has so much development and growth, while 60 miles NW, Black Hawk county is still trying to figure it out. Too bad for the community if the board of supervisors let this one slip away. Email them at supervisors@co.black-hawk.ia.us to let them know it's important to get these types of developments secured for the future of the area. The Board meeting is slated for 9 a.m. Tuesday, April 24 at the BHC courthouse. "
TO HOPE wrote on Apr 9, 2007 3:33 PM:
" The Supervisors Meeting will be held on the 24th of April from what I have been told. I still have not heard anything about a time for the meeting. We need everyone who supports this project to take time to attend the Supervisors meeting and show their support. The Cedar Valley needs progress and good jobs with good companies! Let's show our support by letting the Supervisors know how we feel! "
To Wondering wrote on Apr 9, 2007 10:11 PM:
" This petition will not hold any weight in front of the supervisors, despite what the supporters on this thread. Others have posted, the only way to get any governmental body to recognize a petition is to follow the rules: get real signatures and addresses that can be verified. Otherwise, it already has been shown that anybody can type any name on the petition without verification. I've done it a few times to prove a point. "
Support Russ's Plan on the 24th! wrote on Apr 10, 2007 8:26 AM:
" I live in the Beaver Hills neighborhood and have seen an email circulating there encouraging neighbors "to be present to counterbalance the misinformed residents of Black Hawk County." I hope there will be far more people in attendance who favor this proposal than the few truly misinformed people who live out there! "
E-mail your supervisors wrote on Apr 10, 2007 8:28 AM:
" I encourage you to do a little research and find the e-mail addresses for the supervisors and make your voice heard. I tried to post those here yesterday and apparently the Courier isn't allowing that posting! "
from hope wrote on Apr 10, 2007 9:15 AM:
"
Talk to A Black Hawk County Supervisor! The office phone numbers and e-mail addresses for each of the Black Hawk County Supervisors who will vote on the PFG rezoning are listed below.
§ Tom Little, Chair
(319) 833-3075
tlittle@co.black-hawk.ia.us
§John Miller
(319) 833-3074
jmiller@co.black-hawk.ia.us
Scott Jordan
(319) 833-3076
sjordan@co.black-hawk.ia.us
Craig White
(319) 833-3078
cwhite@co.black-hawk.ia.us
§ Frank Magsamen
(319) 833-3077
fmagsamen@co.black-hawk.ia.us
"
To "In The Know" Again wrote on Apr 10, 2007 12:54 PM:
" Well, like I stated before, if you heard your info or if anyone else heard their info from a Supervisor, that is illegal. Quite frankly, I hope you are right, and they do approve this, but I hope they do it legally. If Linda Hall catches light of the potential Ex Parte Communications, she could easily challenge it into court and the courts would likely throw the Board's action out the window if they found that there were ex parte communications. Just be careful what you state on these boards, cause you never know who is listening. "
The Real Deal wrote on Apr 10, 2007 12:57 PM:
" The Board meeting is actually going to be held at 5:30 p.m. on Tuesday the 24th at the Cedar Falls Council Chambers. The Board set the date for the meeting yesterday. "
To The Real Deal wrote on Apr 11, 2007 7:10 AM:
" Why would the meeting be held at the CF Chamber if this is a County Board of Supervisors? "
Wondering wrote on Apr 11, 2007 10:28 AM:
" How many people on this blog are going to the meeting? How big are the chambers? I am going to support the project. Who else? "
Phil O. Sopher wrote on Apr 11, 2007 11:46 AM:
" To Wondering: I was at the initial P&Z meeting and will most definitely be at the Board of Supervisors meeting. "
Meeting Location Answer wrote on Apr 11, 2007 12:48 PM:
" The meeting location was changed to the Cedar Falls Council Chambers because there is not enough room in the regular Board Room at the court house for what they are expecting to be a large crown in attendance. They looked at holding the meeting at Waterloo Council Chambers, however that will be in use during that time for other meetings. So, they did it to accomodate the public, which I commend them for doing. "
NEWS, NEWS, NEWS!!! wrote on Apr 15, 2007 11:54 AM:
" The latest rumor is that Russ is looking at a spot on the river near Janesville. Has something to do with the new housing developement in Janesville. His people can build nice homes in the new addition and he will be able to build a "green" building on the river. People better check this out ASAP. "
TO NEWS wrote on Apr 16, 2007 9:44 AM:
" Rumors are often speculation. I would love to know who is coming up with all these different scenarios for possible site locations! "
NEWS, NEWS,NEWS!! wrote on Apr 16, 2007 2:25 PM:
" Better check it out. I hear there is a hidden conection between the proposed site and Janesville. "
WTF? wrote on Apr 17, 2007 7:27 AM:
" If he was that interested in building in Janesville, why would www.yes-to-pfg.com be up? "
SUPERVISORS MEETING! wrote on Apr 17, 2007 3:17 PM:
" The Count Supervisors will meet on April 24th at 5:30 PM in the Cedar Falls City Council Chambers. Hope to see everyone who has blogged there! "
Location of proposed project wrote on Apr 19, 2007 8:34 AM:
" Someone on the petition to support this project wondered exactly where the proposed site is. If you drive on the road to Beaver Hills Country Club, as you round a bend on the right there are red stakes where it would be. Hopefully the supervisors have all had the opportunity to go see it for themselves. However, I do fear at this point that Russ Wasendorf will choose to go elsewhere after the treatment he has received. The supervisors were actually trying to put financial stipulations on his coming out to the area, including millions of dollars in road improvements. Good luck to the community that opens their arms to this golden opportunity! "
Vila "Sid" Morris wrote on Apr 19, 2007 4:19 PM:
" Don't lose the opportunity to bring PFG headquarters to Black Hawk County! "
T Clark wrote on Apr 20, 2007 8:28 PM:
" This would be a great fit for our area. The only ones that will see the building will be the members of the Beaver Hills Country club. The club would never approve of a business that would discourage new membership. There will be no additional traffic on Skyline Dr. (exception for the first block) no street lights to keep you from watching the stars. Yes there will be no smells coming from this site as there would be if it were a hog confinement facility. There will be no CO2 coming from here (except for the breathing of 70 employees) like the coal burning utility planned for Waterloo. The only thing coming from this facility will be great paying jobs, a great GREEN type building, expensive homes for the employees. There will be hundred$ of thousand$ of taxe$ paid by PFG and by their employee$. (Great for Black Hawk County’s need$) They could pave Skyline and put in a new bridge. Most communities would give tax breaks and other incentives to get an opportunity to entice a business like this!!!
"
????????? wrote on Apr 20, 2007 11:33 PM:
" Why not the industial park? What is so important about building in an area that is not zoned for this type of building? Are these people going to be working outside or inside? Are they going go be attending to business or watching the birds fly around? Do they plan on having daily hikes through the woods? Do any of the employees really care if the buiding is at this site or in the middle of the industrial park? For gawds sake, they are from Chicago, do any of them actually want to be in the country? WHAT IS SO DARN IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS SITE? "
Rich Blandin wrote on Apr 22, 2007 9:57 PM:
" It seems as though the P&Z and other leaders are again bowing to the pressure of the few people that have the most $$! The people objecting to the Peregrine proposal are only interested in themselves and don't care about the rest of the community or county. They have $$ and so the P&Z voted no on the re-zoning. It's just like what's going on in Waterloo with the power plant. The vast majority of the residents in and near the area of the proposed power plant object to that proposal; ( myself included)! And yet because of the $$$ that goes along with that plant, the P&Z and all of the other entities are going along with it. That DOESN"T mean that is RIGHT! "
Reply to ????????? wrote on Apr 23, 2007 9:59 AM:
" Russ wants a serene setting for his employees. It's his money he's investing and it is his choice to find the best setting for his building. He will find another site for his building if the supervisors deny re-zoning the land. It will DEFINITELY NOT be in any industrial park! And it will also not be in Black Hawk County. It will be in a progressive area that can see the benefits associated with this -- which is probably any other area in the state!
P.S. Any supervisors who vote against this project will not get my vote in the next election. "
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Unbelievable! wrote on Mar 21, 2007 5:53 AM: